Tortured souls do present a challenge in the "no soul left behind" 
initiative. Sorry to keep repeating it. It somehow tickled me. I do know 
the tremendous challenges the no child left behind policy presented to the 
US school system. I wonder if the notion isn't more critical at the soul 
level.

On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 5:19:06 AM UTC-4, archytas wrote:
>
> Someone will blame it on failing to moderate the Cherokee girl within the 
> hour.  Standard neo-Darwinism now is that we are borne in a co-evolutionary 
> arms' race.  Even micro-organisms that fight in the wild can cooperate in 
> other circumstances.  Perhaps our closest profile are the assimilating 
> Borg.  We are nothing like the humans portrayed in literature.  That thing 
> you kiss has fewer human cells than micro-organisms, even when not dying of 
> 'flu.  And wars are about such as smallpox blankets, starvation ... 
>
> In some species of ants, even workers may be distinguished by nine levels 
> of aggression.  Lions are very 'Numbers 31' when new males take over a 
> pride and we even relate female 'promiscuity' in chimps and other 
> strategies to the prevention of infanticide by males (hippos do this too).  
>
> Mum would have had no time for me telling tales on that dreadful Thiede 
> girl.  This said, some of the instruments of torture that prevent learning 
> are present in this group and elsewhere in our petty spite societies. 
>  These are important matters, so we can rely on mostly silence here.  Gabby 
> raises them behind her own screen and multiple aliases.  I would go a long 
> way to be victim of her wit, at least, as we said once, 't'foot a oor 
> stairs'.  No use running all the way home to Mommy.
>
> The est of the war story is economics as war by other means (discussed by 
> Greeks, found in More's Utopia) and beggaring neighbours.  This may even 
> have an 'international financier' problem concealed in it.
>
> A big thesis in what I'd call 'perceptual-speed-language' is needed to 
> discuss war and complex human issues.  Now what might such language be? 
>  How might it help those too ignorant to know many facts?
>
> On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 6:35:47 AM UTC, Molly wrote:
>>
>> There is a story, believed to be of Cherokee origin, in which a girl is 
>> troubled by a recurring dream in which two wolves fight viciously. Seeking 
>> an explanation, she goes to her grandfather, highly regarded for his 
>> wisdom, who explains that there are two forces within each of us, 
>> struggling for supremacy, one embodying peace and the other, war. At this, 
>> the girl is even more distressed, and asks her grandfather who wins. His 
>> answer: “The one you feed.”
>>
>> This from a New York Times article "Are We Hard-Wired for War" 
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/29/opinion/sunday/are-we-hard-wired-for-war.html
>>  
>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2013%2F09%2F29%2Fopinion%2Fsunday%2Fare-we-hard-wired-for-war.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFdOc9Ush5Ai8fOpb4uoS1njKyo_Q>
>>
>> That also references this national interest article on the nature of war:
>>  
>> http://nationalinterest.org/commentary/what-our-primate-relatives-say-about-war-7996
>>  
>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fnationalinterest.org%2Fcommentary%2Fwhat-our-primate-relatives-say-about-war-7996&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHeehbCq8LgZ8AwpLX2q-9GyACyww>
>>
>> Looks like Kant thought war ingrained in human nature: 
>> http://www.iep.utm.edu/war/#H3  <http://www.iep.utm.edu/war/#H3> But I 
>> wonder, are we so hell bent on dominating one another that we can't help 
>> but rip each other apart, whatever the group? Marshall Rosenberg's 
>> compassionate communication model has been around for at least a decade but 
>> you couldn't see it anywhere in a CNN broadcast. The models of argument, 
>> problems solving, conflict resolution, group dynamic are available to 
>> everyone here since this group is on the internet, yet the drive to 
>> deconstruct into war and chaos seems to overwhelm, and often. Why? We go 
>> around an around with it, and come up with problems in translation and 
>> cultural differences yet it seems to me that over time these could be 
>> resolved. So what is it that brings us back to the dross over and over? 
>> Beyond who's right and who's wrong there is a skip in the record 
>> here interfering with the concert. What is it?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 7:29:29 PM UTC-4, Molly wrote: 
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/_d8C4AIFgUg  <https://youtu.be/_d8C4AIFgUg>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 7:03:34 PM UTC-4, Molly wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Howard Zinn, http://howardzinn.org/ historian, author, professor, 
>>>> playwright, and activist, whose life’s work focused on a wide range of 
>>>> issues including race, class, war, and history, and touched the lives of 
>>>> countless people, said "war itself is the enemy of the human race"
>>>>  http://bit.ly/1FwyDUP <http://bit.ly/1FwyDUP>
>>>>
>>>> We go to war in a variety of ways, big to small. daily (some of us), in 
>>>> interpersonal ways, and over decades, as the human race. Why?
>>>>
>>>

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