Why do i want to fight with you Gabby? I never considered you an evil bitch or 
person. You are just Gabby. .

تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others

-----Original Message-----
From: Gabby Thiede <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 11:10 PM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: War, good god y'all, what is it good for?

Don't let yourself get distracted, Allan! I am the evil bitch here! You
need to fight with me!

Am Mittwoch, 25. März 2015 schrieb :

> If you are so neutral why are you promoting the benefits of war..
> Are you for war or against war..  your lip flapping is anything but
> neutral. It does not take bravery to be neutral but rather cowardice. .
> Those wanting to profit from war while hiding. .
>
> I do not like .. i have seen the harm it does and there is no neutrality.
>
> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: andrew vecsey <[email protected]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>
> To: [email protected]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
> Sent: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 10:50 PM
> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: War, good god y'all, what is it good for?
>
> Neutrality kept Switzerland out of fighting wars. Wars are immoral. Judges
> in order to do  their job right have to remain neutral. Parents should as
> well remain neutral. Staying neutral takes more bravery than taking sides.
> As an example, some countries and some people find homosexuality immoral.
> In those situations, it takes courage to take a neutral stand regarding
> homosexuals. Neutrality shows fearless and unconditional respect.Who is to
> say what is moral and what is not. And something regarded as morally
> correct at one time  can be regarded as immorally wrong at another time.
>
> On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 9:03:31 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>
>> Neutrality is afraid  of taking a position.  A cowards way out.. how now
>> to stand up for what is morally correct..
>>
>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: andrew vecsey <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 8:21 PM
>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: War, good god y'all, what is it good for?
>>
>> I think that all of us agree that the negative consequences of war far
>> out weight any of the few positive consequences.
>> The positive consequences of war can be realized by other means,
>> especially in the modern times that we live in.:
>> 1. The advance of knowledge and technology can be realized by
>> universities and government and private projects with monetary and merit
>> rewards.
>> 2. People can mix their cultures, knowledge and genes via tourism and
>> exchange projects and the internet.
>> 3. Protection against aggressors can be attempted by diplomacy and
>> sanctions.
>> 4. Over population can be reduced by education, family planing and
>> contraception.
>> 5. We can realize that the world has become a lot smaller and that the
>> brotherhood of man has become a lot clearer. We all have a common enemy in
>> that if nature is exploited further we are all threatened. If you love your
>> enemies, then you will not have any.
>>
>> Switzerland has a lot to teach the world in avoiding wars.
>> On a political level, the keys to this are neutrality and direct
>> democracy.
>> On a personal level, the keys are respect, tolerance, appreciation of
>> diversity,
>>
>> Examples are:
>> If a part of a canton wants to separate, then accept that fact and let
>> them separate like demonstrated by Jura a few years ago.
>> Small is beautiful concept.as demonstrated by semi autonomy of the
>> cantons and the refusal to join Euro.
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 12:27:21 PM UTC+1, andrew vecsey wrote:
>>>
>>> Very interesting question you pose Molly.
>>> Of course it is very easy to see the many negative consequences to war,
>>> which seems to be a part of human nature. I like to believe that there is
>>> always 2 sides to everything - positive and negative. War with weapons and
>>> fighting with words have some common ground, like you suggest. Being an
>>> aggressor in a war and being a bully also share common ground.
>>>
>>> The positive consequences of bullying that I can think of are:
>>> 1. It can make you stronger when you are bullied.
>>> 2. It shows you who your friends are who come to your aid if you are
>>> bullied.
>>> 3. It allows you to show your friendship by coming to the aid of your
>>> friends who are bullied.
>>> 4. It allows you to make friends by coming to the aid of strangers who
>>> are bullied.
>>> 5. You can learn from it so that you do not bully others yourself.
>>>
>>> The positive consequences of war that I can think of are much more
>>> difficult to spot of course:
>>> 1. It advances knowledge and technology that can be useful in times of
>>> peace.
>>> 2. It allows people to mix their cultures, knowledge and genes.
>>> 3. It can protect your countrymen and family against aggressors.
>>> 4. Like natural disasters like floods. earthquakes, fires and
>>> epidemics,it can be used to counteract over population.
>>> 5. We can learn from it. If you love your enemies, like Jesus is claimed
>>> to have said, then you will not have any.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 12:03:34 AM UTC+1, Molly wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Howard Zinn, http://howardzinn.org/ historian, author, professor,
>>>> playwright, and activist, whose life’s work focused on a wide range of
>>>> issues including race, class, war, and history, and touched the lives of
>>>> countless people, said "war itself is the enemy of the human race"
>>>>  http://bit.ly/1FwyDUP <http://bit.ly/1FwyDUP>
>>>>
>>>> We go to war in a variety of ways, big to small. daily (some of us), in
>>>> interpersonal ways, and over decades, as the human race. Why?
>>>>
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