Gabby is just Gabby and i have not pissed her off yet.. and the fencing sword 
will come out for exercise..

Deep space Nine. Might  be a good idea. But i think we will first need to build 
it orbiting  earth.. as the have not mastered warp drive yet. To much of a 
desire for war and wasting resources.

تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others

-----Original Message-----
From: archytas <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: War, good god y'all, what is it good for?

Well said Allan, though I fear you have allowed a woman with a pointy hat 
to manoeuvre behind you with an ice pick in hand.  Still, I have her in the 
cross-hairs of my Javelin SSM and have just seen a traffic warden give her 
broomstick a parking ticket.  I'll push the button after supper.  Meantime 
just duck and weave  I have assumed RP was not one of the Gabbys, as he 
knew something of cricket.  Forgive me if I must test your blood when we 
meet - it's just Deep Space Nine protocol these days. 

On Wednesday, 25 March 2015 22:29:02 UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>
> Why do i want to fight with you Gabby? I never considered you an evil 
> bitch or person. You are just Gabby. .
>
> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gabby Thiede <[email protected]>
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 11:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: War, good god y'all, what is it good for?
>
> Don't let yourself get distracted, Allan! I am the evil bitch here! You 
> need to fight with me!
>
> Am Mittwoch, 25. März 2015 schrieb :
>
>> If you are so neutral why are you promoting the benefits of war..
>> Are you for war or against war..  your lip flapping is anything but 
>> neutral. It does not take bravery to be neutral but rather cowardice. .  
>> Those wanting to profit from war while hiding. .
>>
>> I do not like .. i have seen the harm it does and there is no neutrality. 
>>
>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: andrew vecsey <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 10:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: War, good god y'all, what is it good for?
>>
>> Neutrality kept Switzerland out of fighting wars. Wars are immoral. 
>> Judges in order to do  their job right have to remain neutral. Parents 
>> should as well remain neutral. Staying neutral takes more bravery than 
>> taking sides. As an example, some countries and some people find 
>> homosexuality immoral. In those situations, it takes courage to take a 
>> neutral stand regarding homosexuals. Neutrality shows fearless and 
>> unconditional respect.Who is to say what is moral and what is not. And 
>> something regarded as morally correct at one time  can be regarded as 
>> immorally wrong at another time. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 9:03:31 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>
>>> Neutrality is afraid  of taking a position.  A cowards way out.. how now 
>>> to stand up for what is morally correct..  
>>>
>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: andrew vecsey <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Sent: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 8:21 PM
>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: War, good god y'all, what is it good for?
>>>
>>> I think that all of us agree that the negative consequences of war far 
>>> out weight any of the few positive consequences.  
>>> The positive consequences of war can be realized by other means, 
>>> especially in the modern times that we live in.:
>>> 1. The advance of knowledge and technology can be realized by 
>>> universities and government and private projects with monetary and merit 
>>> rewards. 
>>> 2. People can mix their cultures, knowledge and genes via tourism and 
>>> exchange projects and the internet.
>>> 3. Protection against aggressors can be attempted by diplomacy and 
>>> sanctions.
>>> 4. Over population can be reduced by education, family planing and 
>>> contraception.
>>> 5. We can realize that the world has become a lot smaller and that the 
>>> brotherhood of man has become a lot clearer. We all have a common enemy in 
>>> that if nature is exploited further we are all threatened. If you love your 
>>> enemies, then you will not have any. 
>>>
>>> Switzerland has a lot to teach the world in avoiding wars.
>>> On a political level, the keys to this are neutrality and direct 
>>> democracy.
>>> On a personal level, the keys are respect, tolerance, appreciation of 
>>> diversity, 
>>>
>>> Examples are:
>>> If a part of a canton wants to separate, then accept that fact and let 
>>> them separate like demonstrated by Jura a few years ago.
>>> Small is beautiful concept.as demonstrated by semi autonomy of the 
>>> cantons and the refusal to join Euro.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 12:27:21 PM UTC+1, andrew vecsey wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Very interesting question you pose Molly.
>>>> Of course it is very easy to see the many negative consequences to war, 
>>>> which seems to be a part of human nature. I like to believe that there is 
>>>> always 2 sides to everything - positive and negative. War with weapons and 
>>>> fighting with words have some common ground, like you suggest. Being an 
>>>> aggressor in a war and being a bully also share common ground. 
>>>>
>>>> The positive consequences of bullying that I can think of are:
>>>> 1. It can make you stronger when you are bullied.
>>>> 2. It shows you who your friends are who come to your aid if you are 
>>>> bullied.
>>>> 3. It allows you to show your friendship by coming to the aid of your 
>>>> friends who are bullied.  
>>>> 4. It allows you to make friends by coming to the aid of strangers who 
>>>> are bullied.
>>>> 5. You can learn from it so that you do not bully others yourself.  
>>>>
>>>> The positive consequences of war that I can think of are much more 
>>>> difficult to spot of course:
>>>> 1. It advances knowledge and technology that can be useful in times of 
>>>> peace.
>>>> 2. It allows people to mix their cultures, knowledge and genes.
>>>> 3. It can protect your countrymen and family against aggressors.
>>>> 4. Like natural disasters like floods. earthquakes, fires and 
>>>> epidemics,it can be used to counteract over population.
>>>> 5. We can learn from it. If you love your enemies, like Jesus is 
>>>> claimed to have said, then you will not have any. 
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 12:03:34 AM UTC+1, Molly wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Howard Zinn, http://howardzinn.org/ historian, author, professor, 
>>>>> playwright, and activist, whose life’s work focused on a wide range of 
>>>>> issues including race, class, war, and history, and touched the lives of 
>>>>> countless people, said "war itself is the enemy of the human race"
>>>>>  http://bit.ly/1FwyDUP <http://bit.ly/1FwyDUP>
>>>>>
>>>>> We go to war in a variety of ways, big to small. daily (some of us), 
>>>>> in interpersonal ways, and over decades, as the human race. Why?
>>>>>
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