Parenting, like teaching can be a  thankless task requiring incorrigible
wit and a stomach for dark beers. I for one am glad to hear a good story
even as a statue in disanimie (crap the Brits already made that word up).
Lacking both I seem to have transintegrated on my path to enlightenment and
landed back here. In flight from hell a falcon dive through a wall of fire
meditation left me triple spinning with the thunder of a waterfall on my
head to send me to my knees grasping the ground. It was almost downright
'spiritual'.
 On Mar 25, 2015 8:54 PM, "archytas" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Chris came as custodian of the group's beer cellars.  He was last seen
> making a trip to a craft brewery on a German manufactured broomstick,
> mistaking Wytch's Brew for witch's broom, an easy mistake for an American
> drinker after 19 quarts of Old Peculiar.  Other ventures here include
> putting wolves in charge of hen houses/
>
> On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 12:39:12 AM UTC, Ash wrote:
>>
>> 'Dance like a butterfly sting like a bee' fair lady. Silence feels like
>> cowardice to me Allan.
>>
>> Hey Tony, glad to hear Andrew and Fran too! Who's this Chris fellow?
>> On Mar 25, 2015 6:10 PM, "Gabby Thiede" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Don't let yourself get distracted, Allan! I am the evil bitch here! You
>>> need to fight with me!
>>>
>>> Am Mittwoch, 25. März 2015 schrieb :
>>>
>>>> If you are so neutral why are you promoting the benefits of war..
>>>> Are you for war or against war..  your lip flapping is anything but
>>>> neutral. It does not take bravery to be neutral but rather cowardice. .
>>>> Those wanting to profit from war while hiding. .
>>>>
>>>> I do not like .. i have seen the harm it does and there is no
>>>> neutrality.
>>>>
>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: andrew vecsey <[email protected]>
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Sent: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 10:50 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: War, good god y'all, what is it good for?
>>>>
>>>> Neutrality kept Switzerland out of fighting wars. Wars are immoral.
>>>> Judges in order to do  their job right have to remain neutral. Parents
>>>> should as well remain neutral. Staying neutral takes more bravery than
>>>> taking sides. As an example, some countries and some people find
>>>> homosexuality immoral. In those situations, it takes courage to take a
>>>> neutral stand regarding homosexuals. Neutrality shows fearless and
>>>> unconditional respect.Who is to say what is moral and what is not. And
>>>> something regarded as morally correct at one time  can be regarded as
>>>> immorally wrong at another time.
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 9:03:31 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Neutrality is afraid  of taking a position.  A cowards way out.. how
>>>>> now to stand up for what is morally correct..
>>>>>
>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: andrew vecsey <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Sent: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 8:21 PM
>>>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: War, good god y'all, what is it good for?
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that all of us agree that the negative consequences of war far
>>>>> out weight any of the few positive consequences.
>>>>> The positive consequences of war can be realized by other means,
>>>>> especially in the modern times that we live in.:
>>>>> 1. The advance of knowledge and technology can be realized by
>>>>> universities and government and private projects with monetary and merit
>>>>> rewards.
>>>>> 2. People can mix their cultures, knowledge and genes via tourism and
>>>>> exchange projects and the internet.
>>>>> 3. Protection against aggressors can be attempted by diplomacy and
>>>>> sanctions.
>>>>> 4. Over population can be reduced by education, family planing and
>>>>> contraception.
>>>>> 5. We can realize that the world has become a lot smaller and that the
>>>>> brotherhood of man has become a lot clearer. We all have a common enemy in
>>>>> that if nature is exploited further we are all threatened. If you love 
>>>>> your
>>>>> enemies, then you will not have any.
>>>>>
>>>>> Switzerland has a lot to teach the world in avoiding wars.
>>>>> On a political level, the keys to this are neutrality and direct
>>>>> democracy.
>>>>> On a personal level, the keys are respect, tolerance, appreciation of
>>>>> diversity,
>>>>>
>>>>> Examples are:
>>>>> If a part of a canton wants to separate, then accept that fact and let
>>>>> them separate like demonstrated by Jura a few years ago.
>>>>> Small is beautiful concept.as demonstrated by semi autonomy of the
>>>>> cantons and the refusal to join Euro.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 12:27:21 PM UTC+1, andrew vecsey wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Very interesting question you pose Molly.
>>>>>> Of course it is very easy to see the many negative consequences to
>>>>>> war, which seems to be a part of human nature. I like to believe that 
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> is always 2 sides to everything - positive and negative. War with weapons
>>>>>> and fighting with words have some common ground, like you suggest. Being 
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> aggressor in a war and being a bully also share common ground.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The positive consequences of bullying that I can think of are:
>>>>>> 1. It can make you stronger when you are bullied.
>>>>>> 2. It shows you who your friends are who come to your aid if you are
>>>>>> bullied.
>>>>>> 3. It allows you to show your friendship by coming to the aid of your
>>>>>> friends who are bullied.
>>>>>> 4. It allows you to make friends by coming to the aid of strangers
>>>>>> who are bullied.
>>>>>> 5. You can learn from it so that you do not bully others yourself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The positive consequences of war that I can think of are much more
>>>>>> difficult to spot of course:
>>>>>> 1. It advances knowledge and technology that can be useful in times
>>>>>> of peace.
>>>>>> 2. It allows people to mix their cultures, knowledge and genes.
>>>>>> 3. It can protect your countrymen and family against aggressors.
>>>>>> 4. Like natural disasters like floods. earthquakes, fires and
>>>>>> epidemics,it can be used to counteract over population.
>>>>>> 5. We can learn from it. If you love your enemies, like Jesus is
>>>>>> claimed to have said, then you will not have any.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 12:03:34 AM UTC+1, Molly wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Howard Zinn, http://howardzinn.org/ historian, author, professor,
>>>>>>> playwright, and activist, whose life’s work focused on a wide range of
>>>>>>> issues including race, class, war, and history, and touched the lives of
>>>>>>> countless people, said "war itself is the enemy of the human race"
>>>>>>>  http://bit.ly/1FwyDUP <http://bit.ly/1FwyDUP>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We go to war in a variety of ways, big to small. daily (some of us),
>>>>>>> in interpersonal ways, and over decades, as the human race. Why?
>>>>>>>
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