Chris is the weird fellow that started the ME group.. تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
-----Original Message----- From: James Lynch <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 1:39 AM Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: War, good god y'all, what is it good for? 'Dance like a butterfly sting like a bee' fair lady. Silence feels like cowardice to me Allan. Hey Tony, glad to hear Andrew and Fran too! Who's this Chris fellow? On Mar 25, 2015 6:10 PM, "Gabby Thiede" <[email protected]> wrote: > Don't let yourself get distracted, Allan! I am the evil bitch here! You > need to fight with me! > > Am Mittwoch, 25. März 2015 schrieb : > >> If you are so neutral why are you promoting the benefits of war.. >> Are you for war or against war.. your lip flapping is anything but >> neutral. It does not take bravery to be neutral but rather cowardice. . >> Those wanting to profit from war while hiding. . >> >> I do not like .. i have seen the harm it does and there is no neutrality. >> >> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: andrew vecsey <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 10:50 PM >> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: War, good god y'all, what is it good for? >> >> Neutrality kept Switzerland out of fighting wars. Wars are immoral. >> Judges in order to do their job right have to remain neutral. Parents >> should as well remain neutral. Staying neutral takes more bravery than >> taking sides. As an example, some countries and some people find >> homosexuality immoral. In those situations, it takes courage to take a >> neutral stand regarding homosexuals. Neutrality shows fearless and >> unconditional respect.Who is to say what is moral and what is not. And >> something regarded as morally correct at one time can be regarded as >> immorally wrong at another time. >> >> On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 9:03:31 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: >>> >>> Neutrality is afraid of taking a position. A cowards way out.. how now >>> to stand up for what is morally correct.. >>> >>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: andrew vecsey <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 8:21 PM >>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: War, good god y'all, what is it good for? >>> >>> I think that all of us agree that the negative consequences of war far >>> out weight any of the few positive consequences. >>> The positive consequences of war can be realized by other means, >>> especially in the modern times that we live in.: >>> 1. The advance of knowledge and technology can be realized by >>> universities and government and private projects with monetary and merit >>> rewards. >>> 2. People can mix their cultures, knowledge and genes via tourism and >>> exchange projects and the internet. >>> 3. Protection against aggressors can be attempted by diplomacy and >>> sanctions. >>> 4. Over population can be reduced by education, family planing and >>> contraception. >>> 5. We can realize that the world has become a lot smaller and that the >>> brotherhood of man has become a lot clearer. We all have a common enemy in >>> that if nature is exploited further we are all threatened. If you love your >>> enemies, then you will not have any. >>> >>> Switzerland has a lot to teach the world in avoiding wars. >>> On a political level, the keys to this are neutrality and direct >>> democracy. >>> On a personal level, the keys are respect, tolerance, appreciation of >>> diversity, >>> >>> Examples are: >>> If a part of a canton wants to separate, then accept that fact and let >>> them separate like demonstrated by Jura a few years ago. >>> Small is beautiful concept.as demonstrated by semi autonomy of the >>> cantons and the refusal to join Euro. >>> >>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 12:27:21 PM UTC+1, andrew vecsey wrote: >>>> >>>> Very interesting question you pose Molly. >>>> Of course it is very easy to see the many negative consequences to war, >>>> which seems to be a part of human nature. I like to believe that there is >>>> always 2 sides to everything - positive and negative. War with weapons and >>>> fighting with words have some common ground, like you suggest. Being an >>>> aggressor in a war and being a bully also share common ground. >>>> >>>> The positive consequences of bullying that I can think of are: >>>> 1. It can make you stronger when you are bullied. >>>> 2. It shows you who your friends are who come to your aid if you are >>>> bullied. >>>> 3. It allows you to show your friendship by coming to the aid of your >>>> friends who are bullied. >>>> 4. It allows you to make friends by coming to the aid of strangers who >>>> are bullied. >>>> 5. You can learn from it so that you do not bully others yourself. >>>> >>>> The positive consequences of war that I can think of are much more >>>> difficult to spot of course: >>>> 1. It advances knowledge and technology that can be useful in times of >>>> peace. >>>> 2. It allows people to mix their cultures, knowledge and genes. >>>> 3. It can protect your countrymen and family against aggressors. >>>> 4. Like natural disasters like floods. earthquakes, fires and >>>> epidemics,it can be used to counteract over population. >>>> 5. We can learn from it. If you love your enemies, like Jesus is >>>> claimed to have said, then you will not have any. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 12:03:34 AM UTC+1, Molly wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Howard Zinn, http://howardzinn.org/ historian, author, professor, >>>>> playwright, and activist, whose life’s work focused on a wide range of >>>>> issues including race, class, war, and history, and touched the lives of >>>>> countless people, said "war itself is the enemy of the human race" >>>>> http://bit.ly/1FwyDUP <http://bit.ly/1FwyDUP> >>>>> >>>>> We go to war in a variety of ways, big to small. daily (some of us), >>>>> in interpersonal ways, and over decades, as the human race. 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