A week in Clearwater is a prize, not a punishment! I humbly request to be
placed back on the weird list, though.

On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 6:11 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:

> I've removed you from my weird list Chris, moving you to 'modern
> iconoclast' with an 'invite to parties' star.  The only higher plane is
> 'brings more beer than she drinks and brings a sister not an alter'.  I
> shall have one of the group imps admonish the Heretic for his error.  The
> normal sanction would be a week in Clearwater, but he is a repeat offender
> and may need two weeks or the full half-hour tour of Bolton architecture.
>
>
> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:02:52 PM UTC+1, Chris Jenkins wrote:
>>
>> It's also accurate. ;)
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 1:59 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry. I was informed  of my error in the time line.. you were in
>>> charged when joined ME..  the weird fellow was meant  as humorous. .
>>>
>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Chris Jenkins <[email protected]>
>>> To: Minds-Eye <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Sun, 29 Mar 2015 7:30 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: War, good god y'all, what is it good for?
>>>
>>> No, Craig is the weird fellow that started the group. I'm just the one
>>> who accepted the mantle when he left.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:24 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Chris is the weird fellow that started the ME group..
>>>>
>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: James Lynch <[email protected]>
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 1:39 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: War, good god y'all, what is it good for?
>>>>
>>>> 'Dance like a butterfly sting like a bee' fair lady. Silence feels like
>>>> cowardice to me Allan.
>>>>
>>>> Hey Tony, glad to hear Andrew and Fran too! Who's this Chris fellow?
>>>> On Mar 25, 2015 6:10 PM, "Gabby Thiede" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Don't let yourself get distracted, Allan! I am the evil bitch here!
>>>>> You need to fight with me!
>>>>>
>>>>> Am Mittwoch, 25. März 2015 schrieb :
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are so neutral why are you promoting the benefits of war..
>>>>>> Are you for war or against war..  your lip flapping is anything but
>>>>>> neutral. It does not take bravery to be neutral but rather cowardice. .
>>>>>> Those wanting to profit from war while hiding. .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do not like .. i have seen the harm it does and there is no
>>>>>> neutrality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: andrew vecsey <[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Sent: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 10:50 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: War, good god y'all, what is it good for?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Neutrality kept Switzerland out of fighting wars. Wars are immoral.
>>>>>> Judges in order to do  their job right have to remain neutral. Parents
>>>>>> should as well remain neutral. Staying neutral takes more bravery than
>>>>>> taking sides. As an example, some countries and some people find
>>>>>> homosexuality immoral. In those situations, it takes courage to take a
>>>>>> neutral stand regarding homosexuals. Neutrality shows fearless and
>>>>>> unconditional respect.Who is to say what is moral and what is not. And
>>>>>> something regarded as morally correct at one time  can be regarded as
>>>>>> immorally wrong at another time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 9:03:31 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Neutrality is afraid  of taking a position.  A cowards way out.. how
>>>>>>> now to stand up for what is morally correct..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: andrew vecsey <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>> Sent: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 8:21 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: War, good god y'all, what is it good for?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think that all of us agree that the negative consequences of war
>>>>>>> far out weight any of the few positive consequences.
>>>>>>> The positive consequences of war can be realized by other means,
>>>>>>> especially in the modern times that we live in.:
>>>>>>> 1. The advance of knowledge and technology can be realized by
>>>>>>> universities and government and private projects with monetary and merit
>>>>>>> rewards.
>>>>>>> 2. People can mix their cultures, knowledge and genes via tourism
>>>>>>> and exchange projects and the internet.
>>>>>>> 3. Protection against aggressors can be attempted by diplomacy and
>>>>>>> sanctions.
>>>>>>> 4. Over population can be reduced by education, family planing and
>>>>>>> contraception.
>>>>>>> 5. We can realize that the world has become a lot smaller and that
>>>>>>> the brotherhood of man has become a lot clearer. We all have a common 
>>>>>>> enemy
>>>>>>> in that if nature is exploited further we are all threatened. If you 
>>>>>>> love
>>>>>>> your enemies, then you will not have any.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Switzerland has a lot to teach the world in avoiding wars.
>>>>>>> On a political level, the keys to this are neutrality and direct
>>>>>>> democracy.
>>>>>>> On a personal level, the keys are respect, tolerance, appreciation
>>>>>>> of diversity,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Examples are:
>>>>>>> If a part of a canton wants to separate, then accept that fact and
>>>>>>> let them separate like demonstrated by Jura a few years ago.
>>>>>>> Small is beautiful concept.as demonstrated by semi autonomy of the
>>>>>>> cantons and the refusal to join Euro.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 12:27:21 PM UTC+1, andrew vecsey
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Very interesting question you pose Molly.
>>>>>>>> Of course it is very easy to see the many negative consequences to
>>>>>>>> war, which seems to be a part of human nature. I like to believe that 
>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>> is always 2 sides to everything - positive and negative. War with 
>>>>>>>> weapons
>>>>>>>> and fighting with words have some common ground, like you suggest. 
>>>>>>>> Being an
>>>>>>>> aggressor in a war and being a bully also share common ground.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The positive consequences of bullying that I can think of are:
>>>>>>>> 1. It can make you stronger when you are bullied.
>>>>>>>> 2. It shows you who your friends are who come to your aid if you
>>>>>>>> are bullied.
>>>>>>>> 3. It allows you to show your friendship by coming to the aid of
>>>>>>>> your friends who are bullied.
>>>>>>>> 4. It allows you to make friends by coming to the aid of strangers
>>>>>>>> who are bullied.
>>>>>>>> 5. You can learn from it so that you do not bully others yourself.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The positive consequences of war that I can think of are much more
>>>>>>>> difficult to spot of course:
>>>>>>>> 1. It advances knowledge and technology that can be useful in times
>>>>>>>> of peace.
>>>>>>>> 2. It allows people to mix their cultures, knowledge and genes.
>>>>>>>> 3. It can protect your countrymen and family against aggressors.
>>>>>>>> 4. Like natural disasters like floods. earthquakes, fires and
>>>>>>>> epidemics,it can be used to counteract over population.
>>>>>>>> 5. We can learn from it. If you love your enemies, like Jesus is
>>>>>>>> claimed to have said, then you will not have any.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 12:03:34 AM UTC+1, Molly wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Howard Zinn, http://howardzinn.org/ historian, author, professor,
>>>>>>>>> playwright, and activist, whose life’s work focused on a wide range of
>>>>>>>>> issues including race, class, war, and history, and touched the lives 
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> countless people, said "war itself is the enemy of the human race"
>>>>>>>>>  http://bit.ly/1FwyDUP <http://bit.ly/1FwyDUP>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We go to war in a variety of ways, big to small. daily (some of
>>>>>>>>> us), in interpersonal ways, and over decades, as the human race. Why?
>>>>>>>>>
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