Thanks Molly. On Mar 30, 2015 12:03 AM, "Molly" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Not sure that is what Neil meant Richard (Mando?), but will let him speak > for himself. We are having trouble with currently with member profiles that > have been inactive for a long time, suddenly becoming active and used by a > member that is currently being moderated. We are not saying that members > are not real or mean any offense. The technology of this group is having > security problems and maliciously used by malcontents. Such is life. We are > working things out the best we can in the current circumstances. Thanks for > chiming in. > > On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:19:23 PM UTC-4, Richard wrote: >> >> Sorry for the interruption, Archytas ( my e-mail is [email protected]) >> First of all I must say, you are really doing a great job here for us. >> But if you say you assume... do you assume you are the only real people >> here... in the essence of contribution (if yes, then, you are one hundred >> percent right)? >> But if you assume you are the real people here (as not bearing false >> identity) then I'm sorry because you are not the only real people here. >> The fact that one is not contributing doesn't make him/her "as not being >> real" as you assume. >> >> As a member of this group, I've been reading the posts from time to time >> each moment I get the chance to visit my e-mail inbox, and I must say, I >> enjoyed the friction between Allan and Gabby (because those stuffs are >> evident in every societies, even within our families, and sometimes it's a >> good thing). But I saw it getting out of hands; most of the times >> preventing the flow of a meaningful thread. To me it became boring! >> Nevertheless, I admire both of them (Allan and Gabby) >> >> On Moderation >> Well, I think as it is now, there is nothing wrong with the mode of >> moderation by Molly. >> >> We hope to see you around again, Andrew. >> On Mar 28, 2015 8:33 PM, "andrew vecsey" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Dear members. I would like to say goodbye to you and wish you all the >>> best in the future. I am sure to drop by every once in a while and see how >>> you are getting along, but I will try my best not to participate in this >>> group any longer. Like I pointed out in a past post, the only reason I did >>> stay in this group as long as I did was that I did find a few gems in the >>> piles of shit I had to wade thru. It was not easy and it was very >>> frustrating. Right at the start I was labeled a troll, and later, my posts >>> if they were not ignored were mainly complaints to my person and not the >>> ideas I was trying to have a discussion on. Before I sign off, and >>> parachute away, I would like to make some last comments. >>> >>> For me, free speech is the freedom to state your opinion, whatever it >>> is. In such an internet news group such as this, we can all speak at the >>> same time and there is no need of any protocols. It is respectful if we all >>> listen to what is being said by all members. I find that there is a lack of >>> respect in this group. Respect is also assuming that all members are >>> humans with a heart beat and with feelings and want to be listened to and >>> to be taken seriously. Otherwise it is meaningless to have a discussion. >>> Members who remain silent to serious accusations of their fellow members by >>> accusers, especially when the accusers are moderators, are loudly and >>> clearly shouting their agreement with the accusers. So having said that, I >>> protest the accusations made about Gabby and her aliases, the unfair >>> treatment of RP as well as accusations made about Ash not being a person >>> worthy of respect. >>> >>> As far as free speech is concerned, I see that in this group, free >>> speech is just not possible because the moderators limit it on purpose, >>> Freedom, in order for it to have meaning has to be unconditional. That >>> means that free speech is being able to say anything you want to say, even >>> if its talking about Jihadis or bullying others with words. The role of >>> moderation I believe is to keep the discussion from being derailed. The >>> simple solution to derailment is to move the bullying and derailing >>> practices to a separate topic which could be easily ignored by those >>> wishing to ignore it. >>> >>> Once again I sincerely wish you all the very best from the depth of my >>> beating heart. >>> Andrew Vecsey, [email protected] >>> >>> On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 4:54:50 PM UTC+1, archytas wrote: >>>> >>>> "At a minimum, speech will have to be limited for the sake of order. If >>>> we all speak at once, we end up with an incoherent cacophony. Without some >>>> rules and procedures we cannot have a conversation at all and consequently >>>> speech has to be limited by protocols of basic civility...... >>>> >>>> I guess Molly and I don't want to exclude any views in principle, but >>>> this is impossible in practice. .....We don't talk about the Jihadis, >>>> though I have occasionally let one in. ................. I assume the >>>> only real people left in here are me, Molly, Allan and Tony - apologies to >>>> Ash and Andrew if they have actual pulses. .......... >>>> >>>> On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 3:00:35 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>> >>>>> .......... >>>>> Free speech does not mean you can say what ever you want.. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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