Not sure that is what Neil meant Richard (Mando?), but will let him speak for himself. We are having trouble with currently with member profiles that have been inactive for a long time, suddenly becoming active and used by a member that is currently being moderated. We are not saying that members are not real or mean any offense. The technology of this group is having security problems and maliciously used by malcontents. Such is life. We are working things out the best we can in the current circumstances. Thanks for chiming in.
On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:19:23 PM UTC-4, Richard wrote: > > Sorry for the interruption, Archytas ( my e-mail is [email protected]) > First of all I must say, you are really doing a great job here for us. > But if you say you assume... do you assume you are the only real people > here... in the essence of contribution (if yes, then, you are one hundred > percent right)? > But if you assume you are the real people here (as not bearing false > identity) then I'm sorry because you are not the only real people here. > The fact that one is not contributing doesn't make him/her "as not being > real" as you assume. > > As a member of this group, I've been reading the posts from time to time > each moment I get the chance to visit my e-mail inbox, and I must say, I > enjoyed the friction between Allan and Gabby (because those stuffs are > evident in every societies, even within our families, and sometimes it's a > good thing). But I saw it getting out of hands; most of the times > preventing the flow of a meaningful thread. To me it became boring! > Nevertheless, I admire both of them (Allan and Gabby) > > On Moderation > Well, I think as it is now, there is nothing wrong with the mode of > moderation by Molly. > > We hope to see you around again, Andrew. > On Mar 28, 2015 8:33 PM, "andrew vecsey" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Dear members. I would like to say goodbye to you and wish you all the >> best in the future. I am sure to drop by every once in a while and see how >> you are getting along, but I will try my best not to participate in this >> group any longer. Like I pointed out in a past post, the only reason I did >> stay in this group as long as I did was that I did find a few gems in the >> piles of shit I had to wade thru. It was not easy and it was very >> frustrating. Right at the start I was labeled a troll, and later, my posts >> if they were not ignored were mainly complaints to my person and not the >> ideas I was trying to have a discussion on. Before I sign off, and >> parachute away, I would like to make some last comments. >> >> For me, free speech is the freedom to state your opinion, whatever it is. >> In such an internet news group such as this, we can all speak at the same >> time and there is no need of any protocols. It is respectful if we all >> listen to what is being said by all members. I find that there is a lack of >> respect in this group. Respect is also assuming that all members are >> humans with a heart beat and with feelings and want to be listened to and >> to be taken seriously. Otherwise it is meaningless to have a discussion. >> Members who remain silent to serious accusations of their fellow members by >> accusers, especially when the accusers are moderators, are loudly and >> clearly shouting their agreement with the accusers. So having said that, I >> protest the accusations made about Gabby and her aliases, the unfair >> treatment of RP as well as accusations made about Ash not being a person >> worthy of respect. >> >> As far as free speech is concerned, I see that in this group, free speech >> is just not possible because the moderators limit it on purpose, Freedom, >> in order for it to have meaning has to be unconditional. That means that >> free speech is being able to say anything you want to say, even if its >> talking about Jihadis or bullying others with words. The role of moderation >> I believe is to keep the discussion from being derailed. The simple >> solution to derailment is to move the bullying and derailing practices to a >> separate topic which could be easily ignored by those wishing to ignore it. >> >> Once again I sincerely wish you all the very best from the depth of my >> beating heart. >> Andrew Vecsey, [email protected] >> >> On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 4:54:50 PM UTC+1, archytas wrote: >>> >>> "At a minimum, speech will have to be limited for the sake of order. If >>> we all speak at once, we end up with an incoherent cacophony. Without some >>> rules and procedures we cannot have a conversation at all and consequently >>> speech has to be limited by protocols of basic civility...... >>> >>> I guess Molly and I don't want to exclude any views in principle, but >>> this is impossible in practice. .....We don't talk about the Jihadis, >>> though I have occasionally let one in. ................. I assume the >>> only real people left in here are me, Molly, Allan and Tony - apologies to >>> Ash and Andrew if they have actual pulses. .......... >>> >>> On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 3:00:35 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>> >>>> .......... >>>> Free speech does not mean you can say what ever you want.. >>>> >>>> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
