You are assuming things I don't assume Richard. On Monday, 30 March 2015 00:19:23 UTC+1, Richard wrote: > > Sorry for the interruption, Archytas ( my e-mail is [email protected]) > First of all I must say, you are really doing a great job here for us. > But if you say you assume... do you assume you are the only real people > here... in the essence of contribution (if yes, then, you are one hundred > percent right)? > But if you assume you are the real people here (as not bearing false > identity) then I'm sorry because you are not the only real people here. > The fact that one is not contributing doesn't make him/her "as not being > real" as you assume. > > As a member of this group, I've been reading the posts from time to time > each moment I get the chance to visit my e-mail inbox, and I must say, I > enjoyed the friction between Allan and Gabby (because those stuffs are > evident in every societies, even within our families, and sometimes it's a > good thing). But I saw it getting out of hands; most of the times > preventing the flow of a meaningful thread. To me it became boring! > Nevertheless, I admire both of them (Allan and Gabby) > > On Moderation > Well, I think as it is now, there is nothing wrong with the mode of > moderation by Molly. > > We hope to see you around again, Andrew. > On Mar 28, 2015 8:33 PM, "andrew vecsey" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Dear members. I would like to say goodbye to you and wish you all the >> best in the future. I am sure to drop by every once in a while and see how >> you are getting along, but I will try my best not to participate in this >> group any longer. Like I pointed out in a past post, the only reason I did >> stay in this group as long as I did was that I did find a few gems in the >> piles of shit I had to wade thru. It was not easy and it was very >> frustrating. Right at the start I was labeled a troll, and later, my posts >> if they were not ignored were mainly complaints to my person and not the >> ideas I was trying to have a discussion on. Before I sign off, and >> parachute away, I would like to make some last comments. >> >> For me, free speech is the freedom to state your opinion, whatever it is. >> In such an internet news group such as this, we can all speak at the same >> time and there is no need of any protocols. It is respectful if we all >> listen to what is being said by all members. I find that there is a lack of >> respect in this group. Respect is also assuming that all members are >> humans with a heart beat and with feelings and want to be listened to and >> to be taken seriously. Otherwise it is meaningless to have a discussion. >> Members who remain silent to serious accusations of their fellow members by >> accusers, especially when the accusers are moderators, are loudly and >> clearly shouting their agreement with the accusers. So having said that, I >> protest the accusations made about Gabby and her aliases, the unfair >> treatment of RP as well as accusations made about Ash not being a person >> worthy of respect. >> >> As far as free speech is concerned, I see that in this group, free speech >> is just not possible because the moderators limit it on purpose, Freedom, >> in order for it to have meaning has to be unconditional. That means that >> free speech is being able to say anything you want to say, even if its >> talking about Jihadis or bullying others with words. The role of moderation >> I believe is to keep the discussion from being derailed. The simple >> solution to derailment is to move the bullying and derailing practices to a >> separate topic which could be easily ignored by those wishing to ignore it. >> >> Once again I sincerely wish you all the very best from the depth of my >> beating heart. >> Andrew Vecsey, [email protected] >> >> On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 4:54:50 PM UTC+1, archytas wrote: >>> >>> "At a minimum, speech will have to be limited for the sake of order. If >>> we all speak at once, we end up with an incoherent cacophony. Without some >>> rules and procedures we cannot have a conversation at all and consequently >>> speech has to be limited by protocols of basic civility...... >>> >>> I guess Molly and I don't want to exclude any views in principle, but >>> this is impossible in practice. .....We don't talk about the Jihadis, >>> though I have occasionally let one in. ................. I assume the >>> only real people left in here are me, Molly, Allan and Tony - apologies to >>> Ash and Andrew if they have actual pulses. .......... >>> >>> On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 3:00:35 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>> >>>> .......... >>>> Free speech does not mean you can say what ever you want.. >>>> >>>> -- >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> ""Minds Eye"" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >
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