Nah, I'm just fuckin with ya.

On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 8:29:51 PM UTC-4, Molly wrote:
>
> I'm a vegan.
>
> On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 7:45:33 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote:
>>
>> Nah!  They don't meet the general humanity features for species 
>> inclusion.  
>>
>> On Tuesday, 31 March 2015 22:40:49 UTC+1, Chris Jenkins wrote:
>>>
>>> Hmmm...vegans?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 9:55 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Consider it done Chris.  We have some room on the evil list too.  Any 
>>>> suggestions?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 5:33:28 PM UTC+1, Chris Jenkins wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> A week in Clearwater is a prize, not a punishment! I humbly request to 
>>>>> be placed back on the weird list, though.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 6:11 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've removed you from my weird list Chris, moving you to 'modern 
>>>>>> iconoclast' with an 'invite to parties' star.  The only higher plane is 
>>>>>> 'brings more beer than she drinks and brings a sister not an alter'.  I 
>>>>>> shall have one of the group imps admonish the Heretic for his error.  
>>>>>> The 
>>>>>> normal sanction would be a week in Clearwater, but he is a repeat 
>>>>>> offender 
>>>>>> and may need two weeks or the full half-hour tour of Bolton 
>>>>>> architecture. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:02:52 PM UTC+1, Chris Jenkins wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's also accurate. ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 1:59 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry. I was informed  of my error in the time line.. you were in 
>>>>>>>> charged when joined ME..  the weird fellow was meant  as humorous. .  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Chris Jenkins <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> To: Minds-Eye <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sun, 29 Mar 2015 7:30 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: War, good god y'all, what is it good 
>>>>>>>> for?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, Craig is the weird fellow that started the group. I'm just the 
>>>>>>>> one who accepted the mantle when he left.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:24 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Chris is the weird fellow that started the ME group.. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: James Lynch <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 1:39 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: War, good god y'all, what is it good 
>>>>>>>>> for?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 'Dance like a butterfly sting like a bee' fair lady. Silence feels 
>>>>>>>>> like cowardice to me Allan.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey Tony, glad to hear Andrew and Fran too! Who's this Chris 
>>>>>>>>> fellow?
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 25, 2015 6:10 PM, "Gabby Thiede" <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Don't let yourself get distracted, Allan! I am the evil bitch 
>>>>>>>>>> here! You need to fight with me!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Am Mittwoch, 25. März 2015 schrieb :
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you are so neutral why are you promoting the benefits of war..
>>>>>>>>>>> Are you for war or against war..  your lip flapping is anything 
>>>>>>>>>>> but neutral. It does not take bravery to be neutral but rather 
>>>>>>>>>>> cowardice. 
>>>>>>>>>>> .  Those wanting to profit from war while hiding. .
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I do not like .. i have seen the harm it does and there is no 
>>>>>>>>>>> neutrality. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: andrew vecsey <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 10:50 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: War, good god y'all, what is it good 
>>>>>>>>>>> for?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Neutrality kept Switzerland out of fighting wars. Wars are 
>>>>>>>>>>> immoral. Judges in order to do  their job right have to remain 
>>>>>>>>>>> neutral. 
>>>>>>>>>>> Parents should as well remain neutral. Staying neutral takes more 
>>>>>>>>>>> bravery 
>>>>>>>>>>> than taking sides. As an example, some countries and some people 
>>>>>>>>>>> find 
>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuality immoral. In those situations, it takes courage to 
>>>>>>>>>>> take a 
>>>>>>>>>>> neutral stand regarding homosexuals. Neutrality shows fearless and 
>>>>>>>>>>> unconditional respect.Who is to say what is moral and what is not. 
>>>>>>>>>>> And 
>>>>>>>>>>> something regarded as morally correct at one time  can be regarded 
>>>>>>>>>>> as 
>>>>>>>>>>> immorally wrong at another time. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 9:03:31 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Neutrality is afraid  of taking a position.  A cowards way 
>>>>>>>>>>>> out.. how now to stand up for what is morally correct..  
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: andrew vecsey <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 8:21 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: War, good god y'all, what is it good 
>>>>>>>>>>>> for?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that all of us agree that the negative consequences of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> war far out weight any of the few positive consequences.  
>>>>>>>>>>>> The positive consequences of war can be realized by other 
>>>>>>>>>>>> means, especially in the modern times that we live in.:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. The advance of knowledge and technology can be realized by 
>>>>>>>>>>>> universities and government and private projects with monetary and 
>>>>>>>>>>>> merit 
>>>>>>>>>>>> rewards. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. People can mix their cultures, knowledge and genes via 
>>>>>>>>>>>> tourism and exchange projects and the internet.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Protection against aggressors can be attempted by diplomacy 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and sanctions.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Over population can be reduced by education, family planing 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and contraception.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. We can realize that the world has become a lot smaller and 
>>>>>>>>>>>> that the brotherhood of man has become a lot clearer. We all have 
>>>>>>>>>>>> a common 
>>>>>>>>>>>> enemy in that if nature is exploited further we are all 
>>>>>>>>>>>> threatened. If you 
>>>>>>>>>>>> love your enemies, then you will not have any. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Switzerland has a lot to teach the world in avoiding wars.
>>>>>>>>>>>> On a political level, the keys to this are neutrality and 
>>>>>>>>>>>> direct democracy.
>>>>>>>>>>>> On a personal level, the keys are respect, tolerance, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciation of diversity, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Examples are:
>>>>>>>>>>>> If a part of a canton wants to separate, then accept that fact 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and let them separate like demonstrated by Jura a few years ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Small is beautiful concept.as demonstrated by semi autonomy of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the cantons and the refusal to join Euro.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 12:27:21 PM UTC+1, andrew 
>>>>>>>>>>>> vecsey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very interesting question you pose Molly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course it is very easy to see the many negative 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> consequences to war, which seems to be a part of human nature. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> like to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe that there is always 2 sides to everything - positive and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> negative. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> War with weapons and fighting with words have some common ground, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> like you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggest. Being an aggressor in a war and being a bully also share 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> common 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ground. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The positive consequences of bullying that I can think of are:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. It can make you stronger when you are bullied.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. It shows you who your friends are who come to your aid if 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are bullied.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. It allows you to show your friendship by coming to the aid 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of your friends who are bullied.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. It allows you to make friends by coming to the aid of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> strangers who are bullied.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. You can learn from it so that you do not bully others 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> yourself.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The positive consequences of war that I can think of are much 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> more difficult to spot of course:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. It advances knowledge and technology that can be useful in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> times of peace.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. It allows people to mix their cultures, knowledge and genes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. It can protect your countrymen and family against 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> aggressors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Like natural disasters like floods. earthquakes, fires and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> epidemics,it can be used to counteract over population.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. We can learn from it. If you love your enemies, like Jesus 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is claimed to have said, then you will not have any. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 12:03:34 AM UTC+1, Molly wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Howard Zinn, http://howardzinn.org/ historian, author, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> professor, playwright, and activist, whose life’s work focused 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on a wide 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> range of issues including race, class, war, and history, and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> touched the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives of countless people, said "war itself is the enemy of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the human race" http://bit.ly/1FwyDUP <http://bit.ly/1FwyDUP>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We go to war in a variety of ways, big to small. daily (some 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of us), in interpersonal ways, and over decades, as the human 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> race. Why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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