We would have made an exception in your case Molly, despite the Vogon 
poetry you encourage in Allan.  Wouldn't that be fuckin with ya'll?  Just 
ya sounds like German brevity.

On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 1:31:58 AM UTC+1, Molly wrote:
>
> Nah, I'm just fuckin with ya.
>
> On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 8:29:51 PM UTC-4, Molly wrote:
>>
>> I'm a vegan.
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 7:45:33 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote:
>>>
>>> Nah!  They don't meet the general humanity features for species 
>>> inclusion.  
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 31 March 2015 22:40:49 UTC+1, Chris Jenkins wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hmmm...vegans?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 9:55 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Consider it done Chris.  We have some room on the evil list too.  Any 
>>>>> suggestions?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 5:33:28 PM UTC+1, Chris Jenkins wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A week in Clearwater is a prize, not a punishment! I humbly request 
>>>>>> to be placed back on the weird list, though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 6:11 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've removed you from my weird list Chris, moving you to 'modern 
>>>>>>> iconoclast' with an 'invite to parties' star.  The only higher plane is 
>>>>>>> 'brings more beer than she drinks and brings a sister not an alter'.  I 
>>>>>>> shall have one of the group imps admonish the Heretic for his error.  
>>>>>>> The 
>>>>>>> normal sanction would be a week in Clearwater, but he is a repeat 
>>>>>>> offender 
>>>>>>> and may need two weeks or the full half-hour tour of Bolton 
>>>>>>> architecture. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 7:02:52 PM UTC+1, Chris Jenkins wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's also accurate. ;)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 1:59 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry. I was informed  of my error in the time line.. you were in 
>>>>>>>>> charged when joined ME..  the weird fellow was meant  as humorous. .  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Chris Jenkins <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> To: Minds-Eye <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sun, 29 Mar 2015 7:30 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: War, good god y'all, what is it good 
>>>>>>>>> for?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, Craig is the weird fellow that started the group. I'm just the 
>>>>>>>>> one who accepted the mantle when he left.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:24 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Chris is the weird fellow that started the ME group.. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: James Lynch <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 1:39 AM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: War, good god y'all, what is it good 
>>>>>>>>>> for?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 'Dance like a butterfly sting like a bee' fair lady. Silence 
>>>>>>>>>> feels like cowardice to me Allan.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hey Tony, glad to hear Andrew and Fran too! Who's this Chris 
>>>>>>>>>> fellow?
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 25, 2015 6:10 PM, "Gabby Thiede" <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Don't let yourself get distracted, Allan! I am the evil bitch 
>>>>>>>>>>> here! You need to fight with me!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am Mittwoch, 25. März 2015 schrieb :
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you are so neutral why are you promoting the benefits of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> war..
>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you for war or against war..  your lip flapping is anything 
>>>>>>>>>>>> but neutral. It does not take bravery to be neutral but rather 
>>>>>>>>>>>> cowardice. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> .  Those wanting to profit from war while hiding. .
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not like .. i have seen the harm it does and there is no 
>>>>>>>>>>>> neutrality. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: andrew vecsey <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 10:50 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: War, good god y'all, what is it 
>>>>>>>>>>>> good for?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Neutrality kept Switzerland out of fighting wars. Wars are 
>>>>>>>>>>>> immoral. Judges in order to do  their job right have to remain 
>>>>>>>>>>>> neutral. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Parents should as well remain neutral. Staying neutral takes more 
>>>>>>>>>>>> bravery 
>>>>>>>>>>>> than taking sides. As an example, some countries and some people 
>>>>>>>>>>>> find 
>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuality immoral. In those situations, it takes courage to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> take a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> neutral stand regarding homosexuals. Neutrality shows fearless and 
>>>>>>>>>>>> unconditional respect.Who is to say what is moral and what is not. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> And 
>>>>>>>>>>>> something regarded as morally correct at one time  can be regarded 
>>>>>>>>>>>> as 
>>>>>>>>>>>> immorally wrong at another time. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 9:03:31 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neutrality is afraid  of taking a position.  A cowards way 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> out.. how now to stand up for what is morally correct..  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: andrew vecsey <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 8:21 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Mind's Eye Re: War, good god y'all, what is it good 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that all of us agree that the negative consequences of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> war far out weight any of the few positive consequences.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The positive consequences of war can be realized by other 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> means, especially in the modern times that we live in.:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. The advance of knowledge and technology can be realized by 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> universities and government and private projects with monetary 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and merit 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rewards. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. People can mix their cultures, knowledge and genes via 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tourism and exchange projects and the internet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Protection against aggressors can be attempted by diplomacy 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and sanctions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Over population can be reduced by education, family planing 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and contraception.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. We can realize that the world has become a lot smaller and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the brotherhood of man has become a lot clearer. We all have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a common 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> enemy in that if nature is exploited further we are all 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> threatened. If you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> love your enemies, then you will not have any. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Switzerland has a lot to teach the world in avoiding wars.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On a political level, the keys to this are neutrality and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> direct democracy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On a personal level, the keys are respect, tolerance, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciation of diversity, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Examples are:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If a part of a canton wants to separate, then accept that fact 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and let them separate like demonstrated by Jura a few years ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Small is beautiful concept.as demonstrated by semi autonomy 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the cantons and the refusal to join Euro.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 12:27:21 PM UTC+1, andrew 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> vecsey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very interesting question you pose Molly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course it is very easy to see the many negative 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consequences to war, which seems to be a part of human nature. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe that there is always 2 sides to everything - positive 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and negative. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> War with weapons and fighting with words have some common 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ground, like you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggest. Being an aggressor in a war and being a bully also 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> share common 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ground. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The positive consequences of bullying that I can think of are:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. It can make you stronger when you are bullied.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. It shows you who your friends are who come to your aid if 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are bullied.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. It allows you to show your friendship by coming to the aid 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of your friends who are bullied.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. It allows you to make friends by coming to the aid of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strangers who are bullied.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. You can learn from it so that you do not bully others 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yourself.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The positive consequences of war that I can think of are much 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more difficult to spot of course:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. It advances knowledge and technology that can be useful in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> times of peace.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. It allows people to mix their cultures, knowledge and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> genes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. It can protect your countrymen and family against 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aggressors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Like natural disasters like floods. earthquakes, fires and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> epidemics,it can be used to counteract over population.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. We can learn from it. If you love your enemies, like Jesus 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is claimed to have said, then you will not have any. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 12:03:34 AM UTC+1, Molly wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Howard Zinn, http://howardzinn.org/ historian, author, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> professor, playwright, and activist, whose life’s work focused 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on a wide 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> range of issues including race, class, war, and history, and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> touched the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives of countless people, said "war itself is the enemy of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the human race" http://bit.ly/1FwyDUP 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://bit.ly/1FwyDUP>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We go to war in a variety of ways, big to small. daily (some 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of us), in interpersonal ways, and over decades, as the human 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> race. Why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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