A few places are considering some radical change. Iceland may start issuing government currency only - https://www.scribd.com/doc/260617614/Iceland-Monetary-Reform
It's maybe easy to see we are being had and taught more or less the opposite of what is going on and what we are from a teaching perspective - inside the magic circle so to speak. The very people who know magic is not being done are the magicians. On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 2:46:32 PM UTC+1, archytas wrote: > > So what more positive might there be Molly? One can welcome the "system > that honors the life of a person and offers real team work instead of the > current cardboard cut out of it" But how do we recognise the reality, how > little work is really needed and how we might have secure lives very > different from what's on offer now as slaves to American state capital? > I'd hope everyone can see that the term "American" doesn't work very well > - we are actually slaves to a capital more difficult to pin down. > > Yet even in play, we seem to find it impossible to see ourselves other > than in the easy dreams. Don makes sense - still lamentably unusual - but > what of a n"ew dream not prevented from practice by false assumptions? > "Americans" don't like thinking of themselves as bureaucrats (Napoleon has > the British as 'a nation of shopkeepers' before we screwed him good) - "we" > like more heroic notions, even of Don's 'getting by as a cog in the wheel'. > People need to see bureaucracy as something other than what happens in > government offices and to do with the secret pleasures of their own lives. > The cemented dominance of fundamentally conservative managerial elites - > corporate bureaucrats who use the pretext of short-term, competitive, > bottom line thinking to squelch anything likely to have revolutionary > implications of any kind. > > I guess most of us can't stand to recognise we've been stiffed. Hence I'm > talking about 'you American commies' or 'SAPs'. > > On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 1:21:12 PM UTC+1, Molly wrote: >> >> Like the paradigms of our financial, relational and communication systems >> that are changing with no clear new paradigm to move into, it is not hard >> to imagine that "work" in our life can change with these, especially the >> financial paradigms. Were many now are unemployed or underemployed, and >> those employed treated like commodities and worked way beyond the limits of >> the law, a system that honors the life of a person and offers real team >> work instead of the current cardboard cut out of it would be welcome. I see >> more work arounds than honest work, simply because they are necessary. >> >> On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 12:35:04 AM UTC-4, archytas wrote: >>> >>> Today's bureaucratic organisational forms almost certainly arise in >>> Germany and the United States We live in a time when we need something >>> more poetic, positive and fantastic. To understand this we need to see >>> almost everything is not as it seems and as we are told. By poetic >>> technologies, I mean the use of rational, technical, bureaucratic means to >>> bring wild, impossible fantasies to life. Universities produce reams of >>> paper telling us all we foster imagination and creativity in an environment >>> in which the barest glimpse of this in the eyes is strangled at birth. To >>> my shame I have been known to toss research proposals of grad students in >>> the bin, declaring them potentially original. The kids look bemused when I >>> tell them that to do original research they have to do something already >>> understood, otherwise no one will understand their creativity. A timid, >>> bureaucratic spirit has come to suffuse every aspect of academic life. >>> This is cloaked in a language of creativity, initiative and >>> entrepreneurialism, probably from a CEO who is a sex pest and rips off the >>> college for a Bentley, a house loan and job for his unqualified girlfriend. >>> My view is this is modern Americanism and most of the world has been >>> suckered by it. >>> >>> The odd student picks her submission out of the bin and asks how she >>> might get the work done while pretending to do something else. >>> >>> On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 3:36:57 AM UTC+1, archytas wrote: >>>> >>>> Work looks like it is 90% bullshit these days. Reward is closer to 99% >>>> bull. We could obviously look sensibly into such matters, establishing >>>> what needs doing and apportioning it fairly. Something is in the way, >>>> including our own fears on personal idleness and being made to work harder >>>> once management finds out we spend most of our work time avoiding work. >>>> Thinking this through is tough, so you can bet 90% of people won't try. >>>> >>>> On Thursday, 2 April 2015 03:16:06 UTC+1, archytas wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Don't make me into a holy liberal Don! Though I am no longer a >>>>> believer we remotely do things as you say - such may have been true when >>>>> we >>>>> were being dragged up I never liked losing much. You'd have to think on >>>>> whether I want to screw the work ethic or find one that works. You can't >>>>> seriously tell me you believe there is much link between bending your >>>>> back >>>>> and reward these days, except in hay rolling. >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 2:12:40 AM UTC+1, Don Johnson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Soviet yes, paradise no. Why on God's green earth would you want to >>>>>> destroy the work ethic? The problem with kids today is they don't have >>>>>> one. >>>>>> Not only that, they aren't even ashamed about it! Work still has to be >>>>>> done >>>>>> Neil who's going to do it? Sure the hell not me I'd rather teach others >>>>>> the >>>>>> work ethic I never quite absorbed. Leading by example is too exhausting. >>>>>> That's for younsters. And immigrants. How do we find out who the best >>>>>> and >>>>>> brightest are? Testing? That's infamously unreliable. We find out by >>>>>> giving >>>>>> kids tasks and seeing how well they complete them and how well they deal >>>>>> with failure and what they do to recover. Separates the winners from the >>>>>> losers. There is no existance without losers Neil. They are as necesary >>>>>> as >>>>>> food and water. Fail some today, learn, and succeed tomorrow. Boom and >>>>>> bust. (see what i did there?) >>>>>> >>>>>> dj >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 2:18:56 AM UTC-5, archytas wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Primitive societies are much more egalitarian and murderous than >>>>>>> ours. I've never done first contact. Playing rugby league in PNG was >>>>>>> enough for me. First contact would be a good place for people who >>>>>>> protest >>>>>>> at the use of words like primitive to understand it is a mistake to >>>>>>> leave >>>>>>> the AK-M behind. The idea that there ever was a paradise to regain is >>>>>>> likely tosh, though you can imagine we might have had to regress to >>>>>>> enter >>>>>>> this universe and evolve to current awareness through various stages - >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> still carry the baggage of the dinosaurs and so on. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> People have strange notions about government. I can make a case >>>>>>> that the USA is now the paradigm case of the Soviet Paradise. It's >>>>>>> pretty >>>>>>> obvious that none of us get to vote for government, but rather >>>>>>> something >>>>>>> more akin to union representatives who negotiate with the bankers and >>>>>>> crooks who run the show, though the union concerned is a house or >>>>>>> sweet-heart one. Surely, not even Sartre could come up with a play so >>>>>>> dull >>>>>>> it was about people seeking freedom through voting Clinton, Bush, >>>>>>> Cameron, >>>>>>> Milliband or Hollande - Sarkoszy! You nearly had that utter weirdo who >>>>>>> ran >>>>>>> a bit of Alaska until it turned out she was banged by a black guy when >>>>>>> at >>>>>>> college. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Would anyone want to deny the US is now a Soviet Paradise? I still >>>>>>> meet a few Europeans who believe they live in a democracy or might if >>>>>>> they >>>>>>> vote fascist. The job looks so screwed to me that I think we should >>>>>>> start >>>>>>> again. You'd think this would be pretty straight-forward if we lived >>>>>>> in an >>>>>>> open and democratic society. >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
