I'm ready to retire in Iceland now. Who's in? I wanted to move there after college, the hub of experimental theater. The big dream.
On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 11:55:06 AM UTC-4, archytas wrote: > > A few places are considering some radical change. Iceland may start > issuing government currency only - > https://www.scribd.com/doc/260617614/Iceland-Monetary-Reform > > It's maybe easy to see we are being had and taught more or less the > opposite of what is going on and what we are from a teaching perspective - > inside the magic circle so to speak. The very people who know magic is not > being done are the magicians. > > On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 2:46:32 PM UTC+1, archytas wrote: >> >> So what more positive might there be Molly? One can welcome the "system >> that honors the life of a person and offers real team work instead of the >> current cardboard cut out of it" But how do we recognise the reality, how >> little work is really needed and how we might have secure lives very >> different from what's on offer now as slaves to American state capital? >> I'd hope everyone can see that the term "American" doesn't work very well >> - we are actually slaves to a capital more difficult to pin down. >> >> Yet even in play, we seem to find it impossible to see ourselves other >> than in the easy dreams. Don makes sense - still lamentably unusual - but >> what of a n"ew dream not prevented from practice by false assumptions? >> "Americans" don't like thinking of themselves as bureaucrats (Napoleon has >> the British as 'a nation of shopkeepers' before we screwed him good) - "we" >> like more heroic notions, even of Don's 'getting by as a cog in the wheel'. >> People need to see bureaucracy as something other than what happens in >> government offices and to do with the secret pleasures of their own lives. >> The cemented dominance of fundamentally conservative managerial elites - >> corporate bureaucrats who use the pretext of short-term, competitive, >> bottom line thinking to squelch anything likely to have revolutionary >> implications of any kind. >> >> I guess most of us can't stand to recognise we've been stiffed. Hence >> I'm talking about 'you American commies' or 'SAPs'. >> >> On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 1:21:12 PM UTC+1, Molly wrote: >>> >>> Like the paradigms of our financial, relational and communication >>> systems that are changing with no clear new paradigm to move into, it is >>> not hard to imagine that "work" in our life can change with these, >>> especially the financial paradigms. Were many now are unemployed or >>> underemployed, and those employed treated like commodities and worked way >>> beyond the limits of the law, a system that honors the life of a person and >>> offers real team work instead of the current cardboard cut out of it would >>> be welcome. I see more work arounds than honest work, simply because they >>> are necessary. >>> >>> On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 12:35:04 AM UTC-4, archytas wrote: >>>> >>>> Today's bureaucratic organisational forms almost certainly arise in >>>> Germany and the United States We live in a time when we need something >>>> more poetic, positive and fantastic. To understand this we need to see >>>> almost everything is not as it seems and as we are told. By poetic >>>> technologies, I mean the use of rational, technical, bureaucratic means to >>>> bring wild, impossible fantasies to life. Universities produce reams of >>>> paper telling us all we foster imagination and creativity in an >>>> environment >>>> in which the barest glimpse of this in the eyes is strangled at birth. To >>>> my shame I have been known to toss research proposals of grad students in >>>> the bin, declaring them potentially original. The kids look bemused when >>>> I >>>> tell them that to do original research they have to do something already >>>> understood, otherwise no one will understand their creativity. A timid, >>>> bureaucratic spirit has come to suffuse every aspect of academic life. >>>> This is cloaked in a language of creativity, initiative and >>>> entrepreneurialism, probably from a CEO who is a sex pest and rips off the >>>> college for a Bentley, a house loan and job for his unqualified >>>> girlfriend. >>>> My view is this is modern Americanism and most of the world has been >>>> suckered by it. >>>> >>>> The odd student picks her submission out of the bin and asks how she >>>> might get the work done while pretending to do something else. >>>> >>>> On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 3:36:57 AM UTC+1, archytas wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Work looks like it is 90% bullshit these days. Reward is closer to >>>>> 99% bull. We could obviously look sensibly into such matters, >>>>> establishing >>>>> what needs doing and apportioning it fairly. Something is in the way, >>>>> including our own fears on personal idleness and being made to work >>>>> harder >>>>> once management finds out we spend most of our work time avoiding work. >>>>> Thinking this through is tough, so you can bet 90% of people won't try. >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, 2 April 2015 03:16:06 UTC+1, archytas wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Don't make me into a holy liberal Don! Though I am no longer a >>>>>> believer we remotely do things as you say - such may have been true when >>>>>> we >>>>>> were being dragged up I never liked losing much. You'd have to think >>>>>> on >>>>>> whether I want to screw the work ethic or find one that works. You >>>>>> can't >>>>>> seriously tell me you believe there is much link between bending your >>>>>> back >>>>>> and reward these days, except in hay rolling. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 2:12:40 AM UTC+1, Don Johnson wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Soviet yes, paradise no. Why on God's green earth would you want to >>>>>>> destroy the work ethic? The problem with kids today is they don't have >>>>>>> one. >>>>>>> Not only that, they aren't even ashamed about it! Work still has to be >>>>>>> done >>>>>>> Neil who's going to do it? Sure the hell not me I'd rather teach others >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> work ethic I never quite absorbed. Leading by example is too >>>>>>> exhausting. >>>>>>> That's for younsters. And immigrants. How do we find out who the best >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> brightest are? Testing? That's infamously unreliable. We find out by >>>>>>> giving >>>>>>> kids tasks and seeing how well they complete them and how well they >>>>>>> deal >>>>>>> with failure and what they do to recover. Separates the winners from >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> losers. There is no existance without losers Neil. They are as necesary >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> food and water. Fail some today, learn, and succeed tomorrow. Boom and >>>>>>> bust. (see what i did there?) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> dj >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 2:18:56 AM UTC-5, archytas wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Primitive societies are much more egalitarian and murderous than >>>>>>>> ours. I've never done first contact. Playing rugby league in PNG was >>>>>>>> enough for me. First contact would be a good place for people who >>>>>>>> protest >>>>>>>> at the use of words like primitive to understand it is a mistake to >>>>>>>> leave >>>>>>>> the AK-M behind. The idea that there ever was a paradise to regain is >>>>>>>> likely tosh, though you can imagine we might have had to regress to >>>>>>>> enter >>>>>>>> this universe and evolve to current awareness through various stages - >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> still carry the baggage of the dinosaurs and so on. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> People have strange notions about government. I can make a case >>>>>>>> that the USA is now the paradigm case of the Soviet Paradise. It's >>>>>>>> pretty >>>>>>>> obvious that none of us get to vote for government, but rather >>>>>>>> something >>>>>>>> more akin to union representatives who negotiate with the bankers and >>>>>>>> crooks who run the show, though the union concerned is a house or >>>>>>>> sweet-heart one. Surely, not even Sartre could come up with a play so >>>>>>>> dull >>>>>>>> it was about people seeking freedom through voting Clinton, Bush, >>>>>>>> Cameron, >>>>>>>> Milliband or Hollande - Sarkoszy! You nearly had that utter weirdo >>>>>>>> who ran >>>>>>>> a bit of Alaska until it turned out she was banged by a black guy when >>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>> college. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Would anyone want to deny the US is now a Soviet Paradise? I still >>>>>>>> meet a few Europeans who believe they live in a democracy or might if >>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>> vote fascist. The job looks so screwed to me that I think we should >>>>>>>> start >>>>>>>> again. You'd think this would be pretty straight-forward if we lived >>>>>>>> in an >>>>>>>> open and democratic society. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
