Thorsten Glaser <[email protected]> wrote:
 |Steffen Daode Nurpmeso dixit:
 |
 |>rlogind(8) (they don't install the server and clients, but use
 |
 |rlogin? Seriously? http://www.openbsd.org/art/SSHPoster2.jpg
 |
 |>SSH
 |
 |SSH is perfectly fine to use in all circumstances.

Definitely not for me, i have a bunch of VMs in a secured private
network with 128 MB RAM each, and it makes a difference wether
i need 4 MB for a connection or less than 1 MB.  That is, we are
talking about 3 MB (that is three MB!!) of *saved* memory.
Three megabytes of memory!!
I mean, these VMs are not mobile phones or something, but things
to work with.

 |>to make an hour-long story short, it turns out the GNU
 |>rlogind(8) sets ISTRIP!  Total crap!!  I'm not sure about the
 |
 |Ahem well. Not sure about ISTRIP. Did you try putting some
 |stty(1) call into ~/.profile or such on the… ahem… server?

Hmm.  Indeed i do have stty(1) calls in there:

  ?0[steffen@sherwood configs.git-no_reduce]$ git grep stty home/       
  home/.profile:   [ -z "${LC_ALL}" ] && command -v stty >/dev/null 2>&1 &&
  home/.profile:         stty -a | grep utf >/dev/null 2>&1 && {
  home/.profile:if command -v stty >/dev/null 2>&1; then
  home/.profile:   ___STTY_RESET="stty `stty -g`"

but ISTRIP?  No..?  no.  Never did that.

 |But whatever. I take the hint about GNU bash and will look
 |into what other shells do (most specifically AT&T ksh93).

And i think i will open bugs for the FreeBSD and NetBSD
incarnations of rlogin(1), so as to make GNU appear more pleasant
for the unaware.  Btw.:

  ?0[steffen@crux3 steffen]$ pl
  USER       PID %CPU %MEM    VSZ   RSS TTY      STAT START   TIME COMMAND
  steffen  22667  0.0  0.9  17816  2464 pts/0    Ss+  18:25   0:00 -bash
  steffen  22849  0.0  0.3   4552   928 pts/1    Ss   21:12   0:00 -mksh

Ciao,

 |bye,
 |//mirabilos

--steffen
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Steffen Daode Nurpmeso dixit:

>rlogind(8) (they don't install the server and clients, but use

rlogin? Seriously? http://www.openbsd.org/art/SSHPoster2.jpg

>SSH

SSH is perfectly fine to use in all circumstances.

>to make an hour-long story short, it turns out the GNU
>rlogind(8) sets ISTRIP!  Total crap!!  I'm not sure about the

Ahem well. Not sure about ISTRIP. Did you try putting some
stty(1) call into ~/.profile or such on the… ahem… server?

But whatever. I take the hint about GNU bash and will look
into what other shells do (most specifically AT&T ksh93).

bye,
//mirabilos
-- 
> Hi, does anyone sell openbsd stickers by themselves and not packaged
> with other products?
No, the only way I've seen them sold is for $40 with a free OpenBSD CD.
        -- Haroon Khalid and Steve Shockley in gmane.os.openbsd.misc


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