Roy Tam <[email protected]> wrote:
|> |SSH is perfectly fine to use in all circumstances.
|>
|> Definitely not for me, i have a bunch of VMs in a secured private
|> network with 128 MB RAM each, and it makes a difference wether
[.]
|comparing with a login shell:
|roy 1965 0.3 0.5 2436 720 pts/0 Ss 20:11 0:00 -mksh
|
|dropbear doesn't use that much:
|root 1716 0.0 0.4 2656 560 ? Ss 20:10 0:00
|/usr/sbin/dropbear
This is indeed so interesting that i'm about to spend the rest of
this day testing it. However,
|and of course I have a 128MB RAM debian whezzy VM for daily use:
|$ free -h
| total used free shared buffers cached
|Mem: 121M 58M 63M 0B 3.8M 42M
|-/+ buffers/cache: 12M 109M
|Swap: 149M 0B 149M
you surely stay on the tropical island of musl or nearby?
?0[steffen@crux3 etc]$ free -h
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 114M 106M 7.7M 0B 25M 51M
-/+ buffers/cache: 29M 84M
Swap: 191M 0B 191M
--steffen
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2013/9/17 Steffen Daode <[email protected]>:
> Thorsten Glaser <[email protected]> wrote:
> |Steffen Daode Nurpmeso dixit:
> |
> |>rlogind(8) (they don't install the server and clients, but use
> |
> |rlogin? Seriously? http://www.openbsd.org/art/SSHPoster2.jpg
> |
> |>SSH
> |
> |SSH is perfectly fine to use in all circumstances.
>
> Definitely not for me, i have a bunch of VMs in a secured private
> network with 128 MB RAM each, and it makes a difference wether
> i need 4 MB for a connection or less than 1 MB. That is, we are
> talking about 3 MB (that is three MB!!) of *saved* memory.
> Three megabytes of memory!!
> I mean, these VMs are not mobile phones or something, but things
> to work with.
comparing with a login shell:
roy 1965 0.3 0.5 2436 720 pts/0 Ss 20:11 0:00 -mksh
dropbear doesn't use that much:
root 1716 0.0 0.4 2656 560 ? Ss 20:10 0:00
/usr/sbin/dropbear
and of course I have a 128MB RAM debian whezzy VM for daily use:
$ cat /etc/*release|grep PRETTY
PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 7 (wheezy)"
$ free -h
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 121M 58M 63M 0B 3.8M 42M
-/+ buffers/cache: 12M 109M
Swap: 149M 0B 149M
>
> |>to make an hour-long story short, it turns out the GNU
> |>rlogind(8) sets ISTRIP! Total crap!! I'm not sure about the
> |
> |Ahem well. Not sure about ISTRIP. Did you try putting some
> |stty(1) call into ~/.profile or such on the… ahem… server?
>
> Hmm. Indeed i do have stty(1) calls in there:
>
> ?0[steffen@sherwood configs.git-no_reduce]$ git grep stty home/
> home/.profile: [ -z "${LC_ALL}" ] && command -v stty >/dev/null 2>&1 &&
> home/.profile: stty -a | grep utf >/dev/null 2>&1 && {
> home/.profile:if command -v stty >/dev/null 2>&1; then
> home/.profile: ___STTY_RESET="stty `stty -g`"
>
> but ISTRIP? No..? no. Never did that.
>
> |But whatever. I take the hint about GNU bash and will look
> |into what other shells do (most specifically AT&T ksh93).
>
> And i think i will open bugs for the FreeBSD and NetBSD
> incarnations of rlogin(1), so as to make GNU appear more pleasant
> for the unaware. Btw.:
>
> ?0[steffen@crux3 steffen]$ pl
> USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
> steffen 22667 0.0 0.9 17816 2464 pts/0 Ss+ 18:25 0:00 -bash
> steffen 22849 0.0 0.3 4552 928 pts/1 Ss 21:12 0:00 -mksh
>
> Ciao,
>
> |bye,
> |//mirabilos
>
> --steffen
>
>
> ---------- 轉寄訊息 ----------
> From: Thorsten Glaser <[email protected]>
> To: Steffen Daode Nurpmeso <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected], [email protected],
> [email protected]
> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 21:22:02 +0000 (UTC)
> Subject: Re: Working around f... GNU inetutils (1.9.1) behaviour
> Steffen Daode Nurpmeso dixit:
>
>>rlogind(8) (they don't install the server and clients, but use
>
> rlogin? Seriously? http://www.openbsd.org/art/SSHPoster2.jpg
>
>>SSH
>
> SSH is perfectly fine to use in all circumstances.
>
>>to make an hour-long story short, it turns out the GNU
>>rlogind(8) sets ISTRIP! Total crap!! I'm not sure about the
>
> Ahem well. Not sure about ISTRIP. Did you try putting some
> stty(1) call into ~/.profile or such on the… ahem… server?
>
> But whatever. I take the hint about GNU bash and will look
> into what other shells do (most specifically AT&T ksh93).
>
> bye,
> //mirabilos
> --
>> Hi, does anyone sell openbsd stickers by themselves and not packaged
>> with other products?
> No, the only way I've seen them sold is for $40 with a free OpenBSD CD.
> -- Haroon Khalid and Steve Shockley in gmane.os.openbsd.misc
>
>
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