Hi Thorsten,

Thorsten Glaser <[email protected]> wrote:
 |Steffen Daode Nurpmeso dixit:
 |>This thread is surely an exception.  (And it doesn't even end up
 |>on GMANE!)
 |
 |It’s there, but the GMane newsgroup web view doesn’t always show
 |all threads that touch the group, only those that originate there.

Indeed so it seems.

 |http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.os.miros.mksh/316

That is just fine.

 |If you go to http://news.gmane.org/gmane.mail.nail.devel then
 |select an article – say
 |http://article.gmane.org/gmane.mail.nail.devel/1628 – then
 |change the number (our first attempt is a success!) to e.g.
 |http://article.gmane.org/gmane.mail.nail.devel/1629 you’ll

But how do you do that using the interface?

  http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.mail.nail.devel/1626/focus=1629
  -> Nobody here but us chickens.

  http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.mail.nail.devel/1629
  ->Error GMANE-03252: Something is wrong. Perhaps something didn't
  match a group name. Perhaps something else.

However, if i silently assume that there is a message 1629 and use
that as a direct link

  http://article.gmane.org/gmane.mail.nail.devel/1629

then it works.  (But how could i?)

 |enumerate all messages posted or cross-posted to that list,
 |even though they don’t show up in the thread view.
 |
 |Or use lynx news.gmane.org/gmane.mail.nail.devel which will
 |certainly not prepend http:// for that argument ☻

The old one does it.

 |> |>It doesn't seem to support ECDSA yet; i've not yet tried to use it
 |> |
 |> |Mine doesn’t, either. It’s patented, it’s new shit, and some
 |> |of the curves are under question.
 |>
 |>...not a mathematician... haven't read Bruce Schneier's September
 |>CRYPTO-GRAM yet, but from a short glance the sentence «Certainly
 |>the fact that the NSA is pushing elliptic-curve cryptography is
 |>some indication that it can break them more easily» has been
 |>recognized.  Well...
 |
 |He also criticises the maths behind it and the problems with the
 |algorithms, yes. But more widely accepted is that some of the
 |standard curves are chosen not innocently.
 |
 |bye,
 |//mirabilos
 |-- 
 |  "Using Lynx is like wearing a really good pair of shades: cuts out
 |   the glare and harmful UV (ultra-vanity), and you feel so-o-o COOL."
 |                                         -- Henry Nelson, March 1999

--steffen
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Steffen Daode Nurpmeso dixit:

>This thread is surely an exception.  (And it doesn't even end up
>on GMANE!)

It’s there, but the GMane newsgroup web view doesn’t always show
all threads that touch the group, only those that originate there.

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.os.miros.mksh/316

If you go to http://news.gmane.org/gmane.mail.nail.devel then
select an article – say
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.mail.nail.devel/1628 – then
change the number (our first attempt is a success!) to e.g.
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.mail.nail.devel/1629 you’ll
enumerate all messages posted or cross-posted to that list,
even though they don’t show up in the thread view.

Or use lynx news.gmane.org/gmane.mail.nail.devel which will
certainly not prepend http:// for that argument ☻

> |>It doesn't seem to support ECDSA yet; i've not yet tried to use it
> |
> |Mine doesn’t, either. It’s patented, it’s new shit, and some
> |of the curves are under question.
>
>...not a mathematician... haven't read Bruce Schneier's September
>CRYPTO-GRAM yet, but from a short glance the sentence «Certainly
>the fact that the NSA is pushing elliptic-curve cryptography is
>some indication that it can break them more easily» has been
>recognized.  Well...

He also criticises the maths behind it and the problems with the
algorithms, yes. But more widely accepted is that some of the
standard curves are chosen not innocently.

>Well, sometimes yes -- and it surely is a good thing!  But
>i usually log in, work, and then there's nothing more to do than
>one push / pull or whatever, and if at all.  It's all local now.

Hmh. But if your system is long-running you can reuse them.
Whatever, just mentioning.

bye,
//mirabilos
-- 
  "Using Lynx is like wearing a really good pair of shades: cuts out
   the glare and harmful UV (ultra-vanity), and you feel so-o-o COOL."
                                         -- Henry Nelson, March 1999


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