On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 1:00 AM, Tomas Bodzar <[email protected]> wrote: > On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 4:12 AM, Jeffrey Walton <[email protected]> wrote: >> On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff <[email protected]> wrote: >>> On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 11:07:14AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: >>>> [SNIP] >> >> I fell back to 4.8 because Tom stated something to the effect that >> Gnome was not yet [fully] ported (forgive my misquotes). This made >> some sense to me since I did see a few messages related to outdated >> binaries on 4.9 when running `startx` from a teminal. I presumed the >> developers knew about it, and it was OK with them (otherwise, it would >> have been fixed). > > I did not say that ;-) > I said that packages are not in current right now because of > infrastructure reasons. Packages for 4.8 and 4.9 are in place without > issues.And Gnome is well running and supported on OpenBSD eg. because > of this http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20110420080633 > > And what is really of interest for you is this message > http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-ports&m=131546789610229&w=2 OK - that would explain it.
>> [SNIP] >> >> I cannot explain why I got a 2 year old document as a top hit when >> searching for 'OpenBSD install gnome' (perhaps SEO?). And I cannot >> explain why the official OpenBSD document was not predominantly listed >> in the Google'd results. Nor can I explain why neither the README nor >> the INSTALL mention anything gnome or its installation document. > > Because search engines are full of ads and other crap thanks to times > when everyone without knowledge can create blog with false (or only > true in that time) information and people then follow it for years. Agreed! >> In practice, after following the official OpenBSD instructions, GDM >> would start (ie, a 'gnome login screen') but I would get XTERM when I >> logged in. Christian's instructions seems to have taken me a little >> further, but I had to add to rc.conf.local: >> >> # cat /etc/rc.conf.local >> ... >> xdm_flags=NO >> gnome_enable=YES >> gdm_enable=YES# >> >> [SNIP] >> >> Since I was installing gnome and gnome-session, why were the changes >> not made to rc.local and rc.conf.local with a message telling the user >> how to turn it off? I think its a very reasonable behavior when >> installing the manager. > > Because it's OpenBSD. Not system which turns on automatically every > knob available. It;s for you and your control over system. I had to think about this one. First, if I was using pkg_add as an installer, then I was probably misusing the distro's tools. It would be greatly appreciated if someone would point out what tool (or which switch of pkg_add) to use to install packages rather than download/uncompress them. Otherwise, if pkg_add is the 'installer', then the tool or process is broken. In the later case - as a dumb user - I don't consider required configuration changes 'knob turning'. Its kind of like buying a new car, but being expected to fill the engine with oil, the transmission with fluid, and the brake system with fluid before driving it. Dmitrij - with all due respect, I can't help but laugh when I think about your grandmother installing gnome. http://xkcd.com/342/. Jeff
