hmm, on Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 11:03:19PM -0500, Nick Holland said that > You can do what you want, but your work will be ignored.
a beautiful attitude. i hope the project won't acquire it also. because even though we are the lowest life form, the users of this system, we also contribute back as much as we can, and actually make this system better. and of course, we pay Theo's bills you like it or not. anyway did i say something else? feel free to ignore it. i will submit at least one, even if ignored. because i care. and because as a poster before me beautifully pointed out "Be as politics-free as possible; solutions should be decided on the basis of technical merit." and if Theo doesn't know what's good html, he should ask someone in his core team who does, because he's a kernel hacker and nobody expects him to know that. and sorry Nick, but i think it shouldn't be you. your opposition to anything new is a sad contradiction to the "openbsd way". > OpenBSD is NOT a committee-run OS project. <snip the rest of Nick politics> i have been here for quite some time now Nick, you don't have to explain to me how the project is run. as if i didn't know. > If or when Theo decides the web site should be restructured, it will be > restructured. If/when that happens, I would be very surprised if > something other than one of two things were to happen: > 1) Theo rebuilds it and says, "here's the new design". > 2) Theo hires/selects ONE PERSON to redesign it, and looks at the > result and says, "here is the new design" (or rips someone's head off). why do you speak for him? you suddenly became his spokesperson? and if this is the way to do it, then ASK that one person to do it and send it to misc@ for comments (as you said in your decalogue which started all this) > Committee design is NOT what we are about. You don't see contests for > CD designs or release themes. exactly, damn it! the cd's can be nice and the page not? where is the logics? why doesn't Theo just spit out the cd's with the same ascii art cover and sleeve every year? because DESIGN MATTERS. you just blew your argument. now go and compare the cd covers with the site please. > Contrary to what some people think, we are not a web-design company. trying to make me ridiculous again? you think i think openbsd is a web-design company? again, this extremism on this list, one can breathe it. you used be much humbler a couple of years ago. > problem occupying my time. BTW: quality of work will be judged on > content, not "style". BTW. quality of work will be judged on content AND style. one does not exclude the other? and who said the dev's should do it? they can code. that doesn't mean they can do everything else included. the fact that YOU cannot make the pages look better does not mean someone else shouldn't be given a shot. or as i said, at least make them f#$%^ validate. i will send the patches at least for this feel free to ignore them again. because as you are now Theo's spokesperson, then you might know what he thinks about standards in general: yeah, break them all. -f -- i'll give you a definite maybe.
