I just figure that adding a little complexity that doesn't adversely
affect security, to ease initial entry into the system for new users
could be good. pkg_add initialization and mirror selection can be
automated in a way to not discourage someone from picking up a fresh
install and running with it. Maybe I could even add an automatic
pinging heuristic to select the lowest latency mirror.

On 12/26/15, Christoph R. Murauer <[email protected]> wrote:
> Quote from dan mclaughlin :
>
> [ ... ]
>> (i am really starting to feel for the devs. this gets wearying.)
> [ ... ]
>> whenever i want something to work the way i want, i just script around
>> it.
>> the beauty of unix.
>
> Explains it very good. I personally think, OpenBSD is simple not for
> Luke. What Luke does, is simple unfair towards the developers and also
> towards new users which are willing to learn and maybe use OpenBSD
> only as users.
>
> For Luke, read the following :
>
> http://www.openbsd.org/mail.html
>
> Do your homework before you post
> [ ... ] the FAQ and the relevant man pages (start with afterboot(8)),
> and check the mailing list archives. We want to help, but we wouldn't
> want to deprive you of a valuable learning experience, and no one
> wants to see the same question on the lists for the fifth time in a
> month.
>
> Respect differences in opinion and philosophy
> Intelligent people may look at the same set of facts and come to very
> different conclusions. Repeating the same points that didn't convince
> someone previously rarely changes their mind and irritates all the
> other readers.
>
> http://www.openbsd.org/faq/index.html
>
> 8.14 - What web browsers are available for OpenBSD? - for lynx and the
> relevant discussions about it at misc@.
>
> 14.6 - Soft Updates - for softdep
>
> 8.21 - Does OpenBSD support any journaling filesystems? - for softdep
> yes or no.
>
> 1.11 - Why is/isn't ProductX included?
> Why isn't there a graphical or curses(3) based installer?
> For a number of reasons, including the goal of keeping the
> installation boot media able to be a single floppy disk, the fact that
> one installer can be used on all platforms in all configurations, and
> the fact that after the second or third OpenBSD install, most users
> find the OpenBSD installation system among the fastest and easiest
> installers of any OS. Most developers and users greatly prefer the
> speed, power, and ease of use of the current installer to any of the
> more "colorful" or "pretty" installers on some other platforms.
>
> In most cases, these topics have been discussed in painful detail on
> the mail lists, please see archives if you need more information. -
> for your (Javascript) installer idea.
>
> 14.2 - Using fdisk(8)
> 14.3 - Using OpenBSD's disklabel(8)
> 14.21 - How do I use softraid(4)? + man page - for full disc encryption.
>
> And yes, it is expected, that you can handle this tools befor
> installing the system !
>
> 15.2.2 - Making things easy: PKG_PATH - to define more then one mirrors.
>
> You should stop to reninvent the wheel or, to create problems where
> are none.
> You should start to RTFM (Reed The Fucking Manuals) or, buy a OpenBSD
> relevant book - as others also did.
> You also should do the following *shutup and hack* instead of always
> complaining.
>
> Let's say your idea for pkg_add is cool, let's say you make a clean
> install or a update using bsd.rd and, let's also say, that you have no
> supported network device - without the firmware from
> firmware.openbsd.org ... what's next ?
>
>
>


-- 
-Luke

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