Perhaps it has something to do with Citrix being a dinosaur.
God forbid the powers that be choose on premise unix.
Regards
Patrick

> On Jun 4, 2021, at 6:43 AM, Stuart Henderson <s...@spacehopper.org> wrote:
> 
> On 2021/06/03 15:04, Chris Cappuccio wrote:
>> Stuart Henderson [s...@spacehopper.org] wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh watch out with sloppy. Keep an eye on your state table size.
>> 
>> Really? Wouldn't sloppy keep the state table smaller if anything since it's 
>> tracking less specifically?
>> 
>> Anyways I use sloppy across four boxes that run in parallel with pfsync. 
>> There could easily be 10,000 devices behind it at any given time. I keep my 
>> state table limit at 1,000,000. It's around 300,000 during this lighter 
>> traffic period today. I had to do sloppy after moving to several boxes in 
>> parallel, I didn't notice sloppy making any significant difference?
>> 
>> Chris
> 
> The problem I had was in conjunction with synfloods. I didn't get
> captures for everything to figure it out (it was in 2018 and my
> network was in flames, with the full state table bgp sessions were
> getting dropped / not reestablishing) but I think what happened was
> this,
> 
> spoofed SYN to real server behind PF
> SYN+ACK from server
> 
> and the state entry ended up as ESTABLISHED:ESTABLISHED where it
> remained until the tcp.established timer expired (24h default
> or 5h with "set optimization aggressive").
> 
> My "fix" was to move as much as possible to "pass XX flags any no state"
> but that's clearly not going to help with what Denis would like to do.
> (fwiw - I'm not doing flow monitoring regularly, but when I do it's
> usually via sflow on switches instead, which solves some problems,
> though it's only possible in some situations).
> 

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