Hello,

Try changing the version to say windows using a extension I've seen a few 
banking sites that will fail to load if it's not a supported OS or browser they 
use or recommend luckily navy fed hasn't done anything like that.

Chris 

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-------- Original Message --------
On 5/5/24 1:49 PM, Austin Hook <[email protected]> wrote:

>  {I'm currently still using release version of 7.4}
>  
>  {This may be of interest mainly to residents of Alberta, Canada}
>  
>  ATB.COM -- (i.e. Alberta Treasury Branch) is a provincially owned bank in
>  Alberta, Canada.  In general it is nicer, and friendlier to use than most
>  big commercial banks.  Not so, anymore, with their web page.
>  
>  In the past 6 months is has gotten more and more difficult to sign-on
>  to with Firefox and OpenBSD, as they have tried to make their sites more
>  and more bullet proof.
>  
>  Now, starting from atb.com it's hard to even get to where one signs into
>  personal banking, and to where it requests a username and password.
>  
>  It seems to go through an amazing number of redirects, and then gets hung
>  up in the process.  Sometimes, tapping different cadences with lots of
>  control-R or control-F5 sequences, I can get through.  It must be a matter
>  of timing.
>  
>  I guess it works better with other operating systems and/or browsers.  In
>  fact I do have much better luck with Chromium + OpenBSD although not
>  always.
>  
>  I'd prefer to use Firefox, so long as it exists semi-independently of
>  monsters like Google.
>  
>  So, if anyone is interested, perhaps it would be nice if we could qualify
>  to the ATB web page design team, what doesn't work well for everybody,
>  and if anything they are doing is beyond being reasonable.
>  
>  I also wonder if anyone has problems with Firefox and other operating
>  systems, accessing ATB.COM, and even getting to the personal sign in page.
>  
>  Additionally, even getting that far, doesn't guarantee one actually can
>  get beyond the next sequence of redirects, when signing in.  It only works
>  about half the time, from that point.
>  
>  An additional reason, for us Albertans, to try to keep ATB.COM from going
>  outside the normal bounds of web site protection, and hence making it work
>  only from certain operating systems and browsers, is that the Alberta
>  Government has become so sold on their toy bank, and it's website
>  developers, that they have recently decided to put that team in charge of
>  all the website development for the government of Alberta, which means I
>  won't even be able to access my health records -- the online ability to do
>  that they are so proud of....
>  
>  Whew... apologies for that run on sentence, above.
>  
>  Anyone game to help push the point?
>  
>  Sure, this is not really just an OpenBSD project question, but the project
>  does have it's origins here in Alberta....
>  
>  One doesn't have to be a resident of Alberta to see the problem (try it)
>  -- but I am curious if the trend towards using timing to allow access to
>  web sites is going to become more and more common, and how to fight back.
>  
>  Austin
>  
>  Milk River, Alberta
>  
>  
>  
>  
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