In the past when I've had trouble with online banking I just refused to use it
and went in person. I still do this for checks as there's no way to cash them
online without a smartphone. Thankfully my local credit union, FSB and Etrade
work fine in Firefox for everything else.
--Stephen
On Sun, May 05, 2024 at 12:49:32PM -0600, Austin Hook wrote:
> {I'm currently still using release version of 7.4}
>
> {This may be of interest mainly to residents of Alberta, Canada}
>
> ATB.COM -- (i.e. Alberta Treasury Branch) is a provincially owned bank in
> Alberta, Canada. In general it is nicer, and friendlier to use than most
> big commercial banks. Not so, anymore, with their web page.
>
> In the past 6 months is has gotten more and more difficult to sign-on
> to with Firefox and OpenBSD, as they have tried to make their sites more
> and more bullet proof.
>
> Now, starting from atb.com it's hard to even get to where one signs into
> personal banking, and to where it requests a username and password.
>
> It seems to go through an amazing number of redirects, and then gets hung
> up in the process. Sometimes, tapping different cadences with lots of
> control-R or control-F5 sequences, I can get through. It must be a matter
> of timing.
>
> I guess it works better with other operating systems and/or browsers. In
> fact I do have much better luck with Chromium + OpenBSD although not
> always.
>
> I'd prefer to use Firefox, so long as it exists semi-independently of
> monsters like Google.
>
> So, if anyone is interested, perhaps it would be nice if we could qualify
> to the ATB web page design team, what doesn't work well for everybody,
> and if anything they are doing is beyond being reasonable.
>
> I also wonder if anyone has problems with Firefox and other operating
> systems, accessing ATB.COM, and even getting to the personal sign in page.
>
> Additionally, even getting that far, doesn't guarantee one actually can
> get beyond the next sequence of redirects, when signing in. It only works
> about half the time, from that point.
>
> An additional reason, for us Albertans, to try to keep ATB.COM from going
> outside the normal bounds of web site protection, and hence making it work
> only from certain operating systems and browsers, is that the Alberta
> Government has become so sold on their toy bank, and it's website
> developers, that they have recently decided to put that team in charge of
> all the website development for the government of Alberta, which means I
> won't even be able to access my health records -- the online ability to do
> that they are so proud of....
>
> Whew... apologies for that run on sentence, above.
>
> Anyone game to help push the point?
>
> Sure, this is not really just an OpenBSD project question, but the project
> does have it's origins here in Alberta....
>
> One doesn't have to be a resident of Alberta to see the problem (try it)
> -- but I am curious if the trend towards using timing to allow access to
> web sites is going to become more and more common, and how to fight back.
>
> Austin
>
> Milk River, Alberta
>
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>
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