Vào CN, 8 thg 3, 2026 vào lúc 19:14 Crystal Kolipe
<[email protected]> đã viết:
>
> On Sun, Mar 08, 2026 at 12:49:30PM +0100, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote:
> > On Sun, Mar 08, 2026 at 11:44:15AM +0000, hmjsp wrote:
> > > disable ntpd? why?
> >
> > See https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-bugs&m=177296357231841&w=2
>
> Just to make it clear to anyone reading the archives in the future, the
> suggestion to disable ntpd was a joke and a form of irony.
>
> Unfortunately the original two messages were posted to different lists, (-bugs
> and -misc), so it's entirely possible that this could be missed by casual
> readers of just one list.
>
> There is _no serious suggestion_ to disable ntpd.
>

You are their friend and have met them face to face?

I will provide some context about the suggestion to disable NTP.

It is possible that [email protected] came from one of the
following ``privacy security'' communities (most suspected first)

- GrapheneOS (Hardened Android with a Hardened Linux Kernel)
- Madaidan's Insecurity (https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io)
- privsec.dev (Systemd Lovers and Kernel Hardener)
- Secureblue (Fedora Lovers, Kernel Hardener and Chromium Hardener)
- isopenbsdsecu.re (Is Open BSD Secure)
- PrivacyGuides
- CalyxOS
- Techlore
- ...

The first 4 communities agreed that NTP is not secure:
> The most popular time synchronisation method, NTP, is insecure,
> as it is unencrypted and unauthenticated, allowing an attacker to
> trivially intercept and modify requests. NTP also leaks your local
> system time in NTP timestamp format, which can be used for
> clock skew fingerprinting, as briefly mentioned before.

And they came up with this solution:
> Thus, you should uninstall any NTP clients and disable
> systemd-timesyncd if it is in use.
> Instead of NTP, you can connect to a trusted website over a
> secure connection (HTTPS or, preferably, a Tor onion service)
> and extract the current time from the HTTP header
(madaidan's insecurity)

bios_23498234908, I suggest we to create a C study group
(or any programming language) and help each other motivated.
Do you know that Tommy (the owner of privsec.dev, who made
a long post about linux hardening, F-Droid security analysis, etc)
**haven't written a single line of code**, but can still talk about
encryption, security and hardening all the days?

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