On 22 May 2006, Lars Hansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Monday 22 May 2006 17:27, Liviu Daia wrote:
> >     Ok, let me rephrase this.  How realistic will be to run an
> > OpenBSD firewall or router without xbase a few years from now?
>
> Very, in my opinion.
>
> >     With the release of 3.9, there seems to be a new trend among
> > port maintainers to make running a systems without xbase a PITA:
>
> Eh, 2 examples arent really a PITA and does not really make a trend.

    The consistent answer I got on ports@ was that "it has been decided"
that "installing X is not a showstopper", and a number of personal
attacks for suggesting otherwise. :-) Which is why I'm now asking if
this is the official position.

> > packages of console applications now depend on X at run time even
> > though that could be avoided with minimal fuss (example: mrtg),
>
> It's even easier to *not* run mrtg *on* the router/firewall. SNMP,
> symon and pfstatd exist for a reason.

    Sure, but that's not what I'm asking.

> Also, so far I've only seen 1 "console application" that requires X at
> runtime.
[...]

    Mrtg, rrdtools, pftop, everything else depending on GD.

    Regards,

    Liviu Daia

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Dr. Liviu Daia                                  http://www.imar.ro/~daia

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