On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 08:09:50PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > Ok, so there's no need to fawn over them for doing what they should have > > done before. I'd be nice to have an apology AND the docs. Given the > > choice of one or the other, it's better to have the docs. And who knows, > > maybe there will be real policy shift for now and the future with Hifn. > > I'm not holding my breath, but stranger things have happened. > > So they gave us docs. Now we need to say they are nice?
Is this meant for me? I didn't say to be nice to them. I sent some kudos (privately) to JCR, but I haven't praised Hifn. > No way. They have received money from hundreds of you. You are > customers. They are a company. Now if you (like them) cannot figure > out what that means, that they have a RESPONSIBILITY to their > customers, and that they only responded once their CUSTOMERS > complained, then I mean, come on -- please don't give us advice on > rolling over and playing lame. > > 95% of the planet does nothing to complain when there is a serious > problem with a company, and then when < 5% of the people complain > enough to force them fix it, you wish to congratulate the ... company? > > How American. Congratulate? Surely you didn't mean me, did you? I think adopting a wait and see attitude is the right thing here. Whether a real attitude adjustment has taken place will (or won't) be borne out by actions. Apologies without corresponding actions are meaningless. -- Darrin Chandler | Phoenix BSD Users Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/ http://www.stilyagin.com/ |

