I've taken the "shut up and hack" as an answer and started working on
testing a potential patch for an atheros problem with Luis.

If you provide me an account and if everyone is OK sending me minimally
formatted TODO lists I will gladly be the point of contact and maintain that
list.

What qualifies as minimally formatted?

1) Each item on a separate line prepended with a *.
2) (OPTIONAL) If you want, order them by importance.

I will attempt to clean-up grammar and spelling.

Daniel, please contact me off list, if you'd like, with the account
information.

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Daniel Ouellet <[email protected]> wrote:

> Please read as this is your challenge back should you actually step up to
> it with the usual line "shut up and hack" type of answer.
>
> This tread now spread on tech@ too and include may be 3 or 4 treads all
> referring to todo lists, janitor and all.
>
> I don't find it interesting anymore and plenty of answers were provided,
> but again nothing is done about it so in the same spirit of the well knows
> shut up and hack, I decided to show again how useless this might be and I
> would be more then happy to be proven wrong big time. I will even pay the
> beer if I am proven wrong for good.
>
> Now to close this for good and to show as many time in the pass that it
> will not go anyway, I setup yet one more users maintain lists here:
>
> http://todo.openbsdsupport.org/
>
> or here if you prefer:
>
> http://openbsdsupport.org/todo/
>
> same place anyway, but the URL is obvious I guess in the first one.
>
> There is nothing there and I challenge anyone that complain in the last
> week or so about not having a list and that it would be useful and allow
> great things to happened to do it.
>
> I WILL PROVIDE AN ACCOUNT to anyone that is actualy serious in doing this
> list and that will take it on. Collect all the variosu todo lists, make it
> clean and real here, not with funny pictures, design, and all. Just the
> list. It could be even as simple as a simple list of URL to places that have
> todo already. I don't think it will go anyway, but in the same spirit of
> showing the true color of winners, I raise yet again this variation on the
> same idea and same challenge as before.
>
> I have that domain as far back as 2004 following yet an other endless
> discussion about documentations/howto and all.
>
> Yes, I got minimal amount of contributions to it after all was setup but
> the wining stop. Just no progress however. I do have very minimal
> contribution in my inbox that I haven't been able to update yet as for lack
> of time on my part, but at the same time I sure do not get a regular flow of
> updates either in the 6+ years it exists.
>
> I know it will not go anywhere, but that's not the developers jog to make
> these lists that no one look at anyway, but many have done so.
>
> Also, I want to make it VERY CLEAR that this have nothing to do with the
> project what so ever. It's not endorse or supported by the project what so
> ever and it not associated with it in any shape or form. If you have a
> problem with that, take it with me, not the project. Theo knows about it, he
> told me log ago that was a waste of time and useless things to do and he was
> 100% right! But it still exists to stop the wining if nothing else as looks
> like we have more noise on the list always as time pass.
>
> So, may be if the only contribution this does is to reduce it, then so be
> it and just that is worth my time.
>
> Now, take the challenge on and show that everyone was wrong by doing your
> part.
>
> Contact me off list if you are serious and will do the list and i will give
> you access as long as you are not abusing of it.
>
> Hopefully this will close the subject and if anything good come out of it
> then great.
>
> Let see where it goes from here. The ball is in your camp now. You want a
> list, then make it so.
>
> Best,
>
> Daniel

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