Hi,

On Tue, 23.11.2010 at 10:55:30 -0500, and...@msu.edu <and...@msu.edu> wrote:
> Toni, have you published a list of the hardware thats been causing you
> problems?

sorry, no I didn't think of it, yet. But I have posted to this list
about some of them, most prominently the small PCs with C7 chips.

> My experience has been different.  Sure, newer hardware can have things
> like an ethernet chip that isn't yet supported, but that gets fixed over time
> in the vast majority of cases.  Overall though, i386 stuff just works for me.

I'm usually aware of things that are "work in progress", and don't
complain. But my experience has been just rather mixed.

> Apologies if you've already done this.  Knowing what things out there
> that don't (yet) work would benefit everyone, I think.

Agreed. The machines which I remember right now have been EOL'ed a few
months ago. My dealer also only found out when I asked for a BIOS
upgrade (go figure). A dmesg is included below. What's really scary for
me is that one particular machine works, while the next refuses to
boot, and the next after that crashes somewhere along the way. They're
all supposed to be the same and have been purchased in one batch, too,
but in fact they are very individual items (except for the machine
below, this one came separately). And then, one works with OpenBSD 4.4,
the next also works with OpenBSD 4.5, but crashes on OpenBSD 4.6, and
so on. That's really hellish for me (but I blame the HW manufacturer)!
Linux, also recent Linux, works fine on all of these, as far as I've
tested them.

My impression is that Linux generally copes better with this kind of
stuff, just because of much wider exposure and much bigger manpower,
but that's nothing to blame OpenBSD for.


Kind regards,
--Toni++


OpenBSD 4.7 (GENERIC) #1: Sun May 30 16:44:59 CEST 2010
    r...@w3.oeko.net:/usr/S/src.47/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: VIA Eden Processor 1200MHz ("CentaurHauls" 686-class) 1.20 GHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,TM,SBF,SSE3,EST,TM2,xTPR
real mem  = 1005940736 (959MB)
avail mem = 965959680 (921MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 10/15/08, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xf0010, SMBIOS 
rev. 2.5 @ 0xfc0c0 (47 entries)
bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version "080014" date 10/15/2008
acpi0 at bios0: rev 0
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC MCFG OEMB HPET SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices PS2K(S3) PS2M(S3) USB1(S3) USB2(S3) USB3(S3) LAN1(S4) 
PCI1(S4) PCI2(S4) PCI3(S4) SLPB(S4) PWRB(S3)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee00000: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: RNG AES AES-CTR SHA1 SHA256 RSA
cpu0: apic clock running at 99MHz
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 1 pa 0xfec00000, version 3, 24 pins
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (P0P1)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 2 (P0P2)
acpicpu0 at acpi0: PSS
acpibtn0 at acpi0: SLPB
acpibtn1 at acpi0: PWRB
bios0: ROM list: 0xc0000/0xe600 0xce800/0x1000 0xcf800/0x1000 0xd0800/0x1000 
0xe7000/0x800!
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1198 MHz: speeds: 1200, 400 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "VIA CX700 Host" rev 0x10
viaagp0 at pchb0: v3
agp0 at viaagp0: aperture at 0xf0000000, size 0x10000000
pchb1 at pci0 dev 0 function 1 "VIA CX700 Host" rev 0x00
pchb2 at pci0 dev 0 function 2 "VIA CX700 Host" rev 0x00
pchb3 at pci0 dev 0 function 3 "VIA CX700 Host" rev 0x00
pchb4 at pci0 dev 0 function 4 "VIA CX700 Host" rev 0x00
pchb5 at pci0 dev 0 function 7 "VIA CX700 Host" rev 0x00
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 "VIA VT8377 AGP" rev 0x00
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "VIA S3 UniChrome Pro II IGP" rev 0x03
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
rl0 at pci0 dev 8 function 0 "Realtek 8139" rev 0x10: apic 1 int 16 (irq 10), 
address 44:4d:50:03:0e:d6
rlphy0 at rl0 phy 0: RTL internal PHY
rl1 at pci0 dev 11 function 0 "Realtek 8139" rev 0x10: apic 1 int 19 (irq 11), 
address 44:4d:50:32:08:19
rlphy1 at rl1 phy 0: RTL internal PHY
pciide0 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 "VIA CX700 IDE" rev 0x00: ATA133, channel 0 
configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
pciide0: channel 0 disabled (no drives)
wd0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0: <WDC WD800BEVE-00A0HT0>
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 76319MB, 156301488 sectors
wd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5
uhci0 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 "VIA VT83C572 USB" rev 0x90: apic 1 int 20 (irq 
10)
ehci0 at pci0 dev 16 function 4 "VIA VT6202 USB" rev 0x90: apic 1 int 23 (irq 
11)
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 "VIA EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
viapm0 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 "VIA CX700 ISA" rev 0x00
iic0 at viapm0
pchb6 at pci0 dev 17 function 7 "VIA VX700 Host" rev 0x00
ppb1 at pci0 dev 19 function 0 "VIA CX700 Host" rev 0x00
pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
azalia0 at pci2 dev 1 function 0 "VIA HD Audio" rev 0x10: apic 1 int 17 (irq 5)
azalia0: codecs: VIA/0x1708
audio0 at azalia0
usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1 "VIA UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
isa0 at mainbus0
isadma0 at isa0
com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
com1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
midi0 at pcppi0: <PC speaker>
spkr0 at pcppi0
lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7
wbsio0 at isa0 port 0x4e/2: W83697HF rev 0x12
wbsio0 port 0xa60/2 not configured
npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16
mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support
vscsi0 at root
scsibus0 at vscsi0: 256 targets
softraid0 at root
root on wd0a swap on wd0b dump on wd0b

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