you guys are talking about the website right ?

2014-03-30 13:26 GMT+02:00 Hugo Osvaldo Barrera <[email protected]>:

> On 2014-03-30 10:21, Stéphane Guedon wrote:
> > Le dimanche 30 mars 2014 07:33:55, vous avez écrit :
> > > I believe the opensmtp project is taking the right approach.
> > > Decisions about certification strategies are more business than
> > > technical, and, I suggest, the opensmtp project is not here to make
> > > business recommendations, even implicit ones. Wikipedia document
> > > some things to consider, including
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X.509#Security ‹ see problems with
> > > certificate authorities.
> >
> > I know some of the critics and agree with them.
> > But that remains : opensmtpd.org uses poolp.org certificates.
> > It's not good.
>
> Indeed. Not-using SSL would be one thing. A wrong cert is another.
> >
> > > Having said that, I most certainly do not speak for the opensmtp
> > > project; indeed, I do not speak for anyone apart from me, and am
> > > most probably talking nonsense.
> > >
> > > If I were to use certificates that had to be trustable by strangers,
> > > I¹d use a certification authority from an established organisation
> > > whose business depended on them being trusted. By coincidence, I
> > > live in an international banking centre, so I¹ve a rich choice (ho
> > > ho).
> >
> > The project can also use Cacert. That makes much more sense, the
> > certificates are well signed, correspond to the actual address the
> > person want to visit, and there's chance that an opensmtpd user
> > (because of free software mind / knowledges / enthousiasm) has some
> > knowledge of cacert so either he trusts it already, or he knows he can
> > and how to do things...
>
> The huge downside with cacert is that no major browser or OS trust
> it. Even debian recently dropped it from it's bundle. So most users will
> get a rather unfriendly message from their browser.
>
> StartSSL's have all that you mention above, plus, trust from major
> browsers. They're free as well, of course.
>
> >
> > > Dylan Harris
> > > Š a broad Brit abroad Š
> > >
> > > On 30/03/2014 04:40, "Hugo Osvaldo Barrera" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >On 2014-03-29 19:26, Stéphane Guedon wrote:
> > > >> Hello
> > > >>
> > > >> I don't like to behave like an asshole and say stupid things to
> > > >> cool peoples... but the ssl certs for opensmtpd.org are valid
> > > >> only for poolp.org.
> > > >>
> > > >> You don't use dnssec, neither good ssl certs ... ?
> > > >>
> > > >> Sorry for annoyement.
> > > >
> > > >Hit to the dev: StartSSL give out free SSL certificate that are
> > > >trusted by all major browsers and OSs. That + SNI should fix that.
> > > >:)
> >
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> Hugo Osvaldo Barrera
> A: No, it doesn't make sense.
> Q: Should I include quotations *after* my reply?
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