ok, well there's no such thing as https://www.opensmtpd.org, I will
make sure nginx does not redirect to poolp.org in such case


yOn Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 08:10:31PM +0200, St?phane Guedon wrote:
> Le dimanche 30 mars 2014 14:04:38, vous avez ??crit :
> > you guys are talking about the website right ?
> 
> yeah (tried to make a joke, but couldn't find a good one... sorry !)
> 
> > 
> > 2014-03-30 13:26 GMT+02:00 Hugo Osvaldo Barrera <[email protected]>:
> > > On 2014-03-30 10:21, St??phane Guedon wrote:
> > > > Le dimanche 30 mars 2014 07:33:55, vous avez ??crit :
> > > > > I believe the opensmtp project is taking the right approach.
> > > > > Decisions about certification strategies are more business
> > > > > than
> > > > > technical, and, I suggest, the opensmtp project is not here to
> > > > > make
> > > > > business recommendations, even implicit ones. Wikipedia
> > > > > document
> > > > > some things to consider, including
> > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X.509#Security ??? see problems
> > > > > with
> > > > > certificate authorities.
> > > > 
> > > > I know some of the critics and agree with them.
> > > > But that remains : opensmtpd.org uses poolp.org certificates.
> > > > It's not good.
> > > 
> > > Indeed. Not-using SSL would be one thing. A wrong cert is another.
> > > 
> > > > > Having said that, I most certainly do not speak for the
> > > > > opensmtp
> > > > > project; indeed, I do not speak for anyone apart from me, and
> > > > > am
> > > > > most probably talking nonsense.
> > > > > 
> > > > > If I were to use certificates that had to be trustable by
> > > > > strangers, I??d use a certification authority from an
> > > > > established organisation whose business depended on them
> > > > > being trusted. By coincidence, I live in an international
> > > > > banking centre, so I??ve a rich choice (ho ho).
> > > > 
> > > > The project can also use Cacert. That makes much more sense, the
> > > > certificates are well signed, correspond to the actual address
> > > > the
> > > > person want to visit, and there's chance that an opensmtpd user
> > > > (because of free software mind / knowledges / enthousiasm) has
> > > > some
> > > > knowledge of cacert so either he trusts it already, or he knows
> > > > he can and how to do things...
> > > 
> > > The huge downside with cacert is that no major browser or OS trust
> > > it. Even debian recently dropped it from it's bundle. So most
> > > users will get a rather unfriendly message from their browser.
> > > 
> > > StartSSL's have all that you mention above, plus, trust from major
> > > browsers. They're free as well, of course.
> > > 
> > > > > Dylan Harris
> > > > > ?? a broad Brit abroad ??
> > > > > 
> > > > > On 30/03/2014 04:40, "Hugo Osvaldo Barrera" <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> > > > > >On 2014-03-29 19:26, St??phane Guedon wrote:
> > > > > >> Hello
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> I don't like to behave like an asshole and say stupid
> > > > > >> things to
> > > > > >> cool peoples... but the ssl certs for opensmtpd.org are
> > > > > >> valid
> > > > > >> only for poolp.org.
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> You don't use dnssec, neither good ssl certs ... ?
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> Sorry for annoyement.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Hit to the dev: StartSSL give out free SSL certificate that
> > > > > >are
> > > > > >trusted by all major browsers and OSs. That + SNI should fix
> > > > > >that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >:)
> > > > 
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> > > Hugo Osvaldo Barrera
> > > A: No, it doesn't make sense.
> > > Q: Should I include quotations *after* my reply?
> 
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