Le dimanche 30 mars 2014 14:04:38, vous avez écrit :
> you guys are talking about the website right ?

yeah (tried to make a joke, but couldn't find a good one... sorry !)

> 
> 2014-03-30 13:26 GMT+02:00 Hugo Osvaldo Barrera <[email protected]>:
> > On 2014-03-30 10:21, Stéphane Guedon wrote:
> > > Le dimanche 30 mars 2014 07:33:55, vous avez écrit :
> > > > I believe the opensmtp project is taking the right approach.
> > > > Decisions about certification strategies are more business
> > > > than
> > > > technical, and, I suggest, the opensmtp project is not here to
> > > > make
> > > > business recommendations, even implicit ones. Wikipedia
> > > > document
> > > > some things to consider, including
> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X.509#Security ‹ see problems
> > > > with
> > > > certificate authorities.
> > > 
> > > I know some of the critics and agree with them.
> > > But that remains : opensmtpd.org uses poolp.org certificates.
> > > It's not good.
> > 
> > Indeed. Not-using SSL would be one thing. A wrong cert is another.
> > 
> > > > Having said that, I most certainly do not speak for the
> > > > opensmtp
> > > > project; indeed, I do not speak for anyone apart from me, and
> > > > am
> > > > most probably talking nonsense.
> > > > 
> > > > If I were to use certificates that had to be trustable by
> > > > strangers, I¹d use a certification authority from an
> > > > established organisation whose business depended on them
> > > > being trusted. By coincidence, I live in an international
> > > > banking centre, so I¹ve a rich choice (ho ho).
> > > 
> > > The project can also use Cacert. That makes much more sense, the
> > > certificates are well signed, correspond to the actual address
> > > the
> > > person want to visit, and there's chance that an opensmtpd user
> > > (because of free software mind / knowledges / enthousiasm) has
> > > some
> > > knowledge of cacert so either he trusts it already, or he knows
> > > he can and how to do things...
> > 
> > The huge downside with cacert is that no major browser or OS trust
> > it. Even debian recently dropped it from it's bundle. So most
> > users will get a rather unfriendly message from their browser.
> > 
> > StartSSL's have all that you mention above, plus, trust from major
> > browsers. They're free as well, of course.
> > 
> > > > Dylan Harris
> > > > Š a broad Brit abroad Š
> > > > 
> > > > On 30/03/2014 04:40, "Hugo Osvaldo Barrera" <[email protected]> 
wrote:
> > > > >On 2014-03-29 19:26, Stéphane Guedon wrote:
> > > > >> Hello
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> I don't like to behave like an asshole and say stupid
> > > > >> things to
> > > > >> cool peoples... but the ssl certs for opensmtpd.org are
> > > > >> valid
> > > > >> only for poolp.org.
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> You don't use dnssec, neither good ssl certs ... ?
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> Sorry for annoyement.
> > > > >
> > > > >Hit to the dev: StartSSL give out free SSL certificate that
> > > > >are
> > > > >trusted by all major browsers and OSs. That + SNI should fix
> > > > >that.
> > > > >
> > > > >:)
> > > 
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> > Hugo Osvaldo Barrera
> > A: No, it doesn't make sense.
> > Q: Should I include quotations *after* my reply?


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