In theroy that idea isnt even that great, and in practice a hygene server
is a better place to do the most course obvious spam. There is stuff that
is very obviously not wanted such as items coming from rouge servers that
we can prove thanks to SPF or Sender-ID being setup correctly. There is no
reason that a server that can verify that another server has no right to
send should pass on a potentially risky email to the user, it is actually
very irresponsible to do so especially since you are going to treat a user
that may have no clue about email headers as an idiot because they clicked
on a message that if you had a script take two milliseconds to look at
could have told you it was spam.
Not everyone is a computer scientist, and stuff that is obvious should be
dealt with long before your users have to deal with it manually.


On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Martin Braun <[email protected]>wrote:

> IMHO spam should be dealt with only on the client, not on the server.
> It is not the task of the server to determine what is spam and what is
> not. I know everyone does it, I used to do it too, but it is wrong.
>
> 2014-04-26 16:26 GMT+02:00 Stéphane Guedon <[email protected]>:
> > Le samedi 26 avril 2014 07:20:19, vous avez écrit :
> >> Hi John,
> >>
> >> At 06:04 26-04-2014, John Cox wrote:
> >> >Unfortunately the whole point of SPF (unlike Sender-ID which works
> >> >much better and on much the same principles) is that you can reject
> >> >the message before receiving it so you wouldn't have the DKIM stuff
> >> >(which I think requires you to have the entire message?).
> >>
> >> SPF allows processing using envelope information.  DKIM processing
> >> can only occur after the entire message has been received.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> -sm
> >
> > I am myself in need for a good antispam solution with opensmtpd.
> >
> > if dkim (which I don't use yet) and spf are not really working, what's
> > the good way (I am already using spamd, not enough !)
>
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