I'm actually in favor of those who have kids in the classroom footing the bill, problem is their are more children coming from medium to low income households then those who can afford to actually pay for the schooling. the ultimate wealth redistribution scheme is education.
On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 10:45 PM, CathyM <catr...@juno.com> wrote: > Here is one analogy about teacher’s wages that is quite old: > > *“I’m fed up with teachers and their hefty salary schedules. What we need > here is a little perspective.* > > *If I had my way, I’d pay these teachers myself-I’d pay them baby-sitting > wages. That’s right-I’d rather give them $3 an hour out of my own pocket > than pay my outrageous taxes. I’m only going to pay them for five hours, > not lunch or coffee breaks. That would be $15.00 a day. Each parent should > pay $15 a day for these teachers to babysit their child. Even if they have > more than one child, it’s still a lot cheaper than private daycare.* > > *Now, how many children do they teach every day-maybe 20? That’s > $15×20=$300 a day. But remember they only work 180 days a year! I’m not > going to pay them for vacations! $300×180=$54,000. (Just a minute, I > think my calculator needs new batteries.)* > > *I know you teachers will say-What about those who have 10 years > experience and a Master’s Degree? Well, maybe (to be fair) they could get > the minimum wage, and instead of just babysitting, they could read the kids > a story. We could round that off to about $5 an hour, times five hours, > times 20 children. That’s $500 a day times 180 days. That’s $90,000….HUH?* > > *Wait a minute, let’s get a little perspective here. Babysitting wages are > too good for these teachers. Has anyone seen a salary schedule around here?” > * > > * ~Anonymous~* > > And here is another more modern one from 2008 wrote by a teacher: > > http://ednews.org/articles/i-want-baby-sitting-wages.html > > > > Ridder is putting on an act. He has been in education way too long and > knows how much time teachers put in compared to how much they get paid. The > problem is there is only so many tax dollars collected and they have to pay > the teachers and the administrators (who are paid way more than the > teachers) and provide technology and supplies to teach the students. > > Now, I am not saying the administrators don’t earn the money because many > do, but compared to the teachers in the classroom from 8 to 3 and then in > the school building getting ready for the next day from 3 to 5 and then > taking home papers to grade for another hour at night…besides the meetings > and professional development that you may have to attend outside of school > hours, plus any continuing education that you may be required dependent on > your license and years teaching plus talking to parents about their > children. You get the idea. > > So if the tax base is so much and you want to pay teachers what they are > worth there are only two answers: > > 1. Raise taxes. > > 2. Do away with taxes and have the parents pay the school according to > one of the scenarios above. But one of the things they are forgetting in > the scenarios is where is all the money going to come for computers and text > books and copiers and copier paper and pencils and desks and chairs and > manipulatives and maps and smart boards and…and…and…This all has to come out > of the this money also and either education suffers or teachers don’t get > paid. Look at how many private schools go under because they can’t make > payroll and the rest for running a school. > > > > Anyway you look at it…education needs more money and teachers. Good luck > in solving this dilemma! > > > > > > *CathyM* > > *Catren's Shar Pei* > > *Catren's Leather Show Accessories* > > *November 16, 2009 HSUS CEO, Wayne Pacelle, made the suggestion: > "...every "**responsible breeder**"** is a **"**puppy miller**"**, every " > **family farmer**"** is a **"**factory farmer**"** and every "**responsible > hunter**"** **is a **"**poacher**"**." > This is what HSUS really thinks about anyone involved with animals! > Don't donate and don't believe them when HSUS says they protect animals. > * > > Kill "The Killing Fields" Bills of the HSUS > www.americanssupportinganimalownership.com > > * * > > > > *From:* missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com [mailto: > missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Linda Herd > *Sent:* Sunday, December 26, 2010 10:01 PM > *To:* missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* [MoLiCo] Fw: Check out "Unfunded Pensions Force Property Tax > Hikes" on Patriot Action Network > > > > Folks? > > > > What about the contributions of these public servents? Obviously what is > quoted here is way too low. Anything from 4% to 7% is not enough. Raise > contributions and the problem would not be solved but it would help > significantly. I would like someone to either agree or disagree and explain > why. > > > > I just read something from Mr. Norm Ridder trying to justify salaries and > stipends. In my opinion he made a fool out of himself again. Did the rest of > you get his reply? I would be happy to forward it. He is definitely mad as a > hornet with no good justification. The Cheer Leading Coaches spend gads of > time on their job and get paid somewhat over $3,000? He is acting ignorant. > Better yet slick almost criminal. If anyone is a miscreant. > > > > Linda Herd > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > *From:* "Admin. II, Dee" <sh...@patriotactionnetwork.com> > *To:* "linda.h...@sbcglobal.net" <linda.h...@sbcglobal.net> > *Sent:* Sun, December 26, 2010 8:00:01 PM > *Subject:* Check out "Unfunded Pensions Force Property Tax Hikes" on > Patriot Action Network > > > *Patriot Action Network* <http://www.patriotactionnetwork.com/> > > > > *Error! Filename not > specified.*<http://www.patriotactionnetwork.com/profile/Dee61?xg_source=msg_share_topic> > > Admin. II, > Dee<http://www.patriotactionnetwork.com/profile/Dee61?xg_source=msg_share_topic> > > *Check out the discussion 'Unfunded Pensions Force Property Tax Hikes'* > > So, tell us, what are the state's going to do about the unfunded pensions > of their government? 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