Garth: Thanks for the details. I still like the size of outlineNetbook for our default skin, but since it looks like it's going to be a hassle to standardize our skin sizes beyond that (and we have no firm timeline for flexible layouts), I guess our other bundled skins will be various sizes.
Replies to jus inline: On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 1:15 PM, jus <j...@justmail.de> wrote: > Hello, > > * Without Mixxx logo? Thought is would help in brand recognition. > Maybe you're right. I have a sexy black and white version of the Mixxx logo done by the original logo artist that would probably look good in your skin. The reason I was hesitant to keep the logo in the skin is because the logo is our trademark. However, it just occurred to me that we can use this to our advantage - If we have the Mixxx logo in our skins, it means we can prevent evil profiteers from distributing our skins. > * The PFL thing. There was a change from a headphone to PFL based on user > feedback (Mixxx forum). PFL is IMHO fairly common ( Vestax hardware, Virtual > DJ). > Our users are mostly experienced DJs, which is why they told you that PFL was OK. However, we want to keep Mixxx as accessible to new (non-DJ) users as much as possible, which is why I strongly believe we should shy away from acronyms that the average person wouldn't be familiar with (at least for basic mixing functions). Think about a new user firing up Mixxx. In order to do your first beatmix, you need to load a track, and then use three controls - The crossfader, the pitch sliders, and the headphone button. If I was a new user, I probably would not have realized that toggling a "PFL" button sent audio to my headphones. Heck, even with a button clearly labelled "HEADPHONE", we've still had users on the forum having trouble figuring out how they're supposed to mix with their headphones. I wouldn't want to make things any more complicated. Down the road, we will definitely consider adding some sort of tutorial mode (*cough* GSoC *cough*) to help make Mixxx even more accessible to new users. Until then, I'd like to keep the controls as self-explanatory as possible. > * Sliders: I like it , but could be changed easily . > * Knob: The smaller red part should help to distinguish between up and down > (see attached file). > > > I can't see the difference between this knob and the one your skin had before. (???) > > * Resolution : 1024x570 ist the lowest possible resolution for this layout > ( without major redesign). More height is no problem. > Yeah, I guess we'll just have to stick with it then. Don't get me wrong Jus, I'm being super critical here because I think one of your excellent skins could replace Outline as our default skin. :) They're absolutely fantastic, and I think we all appreciate your hard work very much. Keep up the good work! Thanks, Albert > On 10 Jan 2010, at 20:43, Albert Santoni wrote: > > Hi Jus, > > I think the skin looks great overall, maybe we can include this in 1.8 > after some discussion. > > I'll briefly summarize my thoughts below: > > - Don't put the Mixxx logo in your skin, because it saves us changing your > skin if we update our logo. > > - IMO the knobs could use more "direction". At first glance, it wasn't 100% > obvious to me that the red side was the tick mark on the knob. > > - The drop shadows on the sliders looks weird to me. They're the only > element of your skin that has depth, and they look like they're "floating". > (This is hugely subjective and I'm nitpicking now, so feel free to ignore > this unless someone has a suggestion on how to improve the 3D look of them.) > > - PFL isn't a n00b friendly acronym.... Do you think we can throw a little > cartoon image of headphones on the PFL buttons instead of that text? The > outline skin has "HEADPHONE" on that button, but that won't work within your > size constraints. > > - I'm not sure a 1024x570 resolution is a good idea. The resolution of the > outlineNetbook skin was chosen specifically so that Mixxx's UI fit on a > first-generation Asus Eee PC, which is the netbook with the lowest > resolution. Your skin will not fit on first generation netbooks. I'm > guessing the netbook resolution you targeted with your skin is 1024 x 600, > but that also raises the question about that arbitrary 30 pixels that you > subtracted. What's the default height of the taskbar in Windows XP, Vista, > and 7? What about the GNOME panel? KDE panel? It's tough to make a skin that > cuts it close... > (Garth, correct me if I'm wrong about this skin dimensions stuff...) > > Aside from these issues, I think your skin looks great. It's got a very > distinct visual style and a nice colour palette. The buttons and layout are > clear and the skin has fairly high contrast, which means it'll be nice to > look at in the dark. :) > > Thanks! > Albert > > On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 5:16 AM, jus <j...@justmail.de> wrote: > >> Hello, >> i would love to hear what you think. >> >> Some remarks on the screenshot: >> * The colors for the Loop overlay are same on both channels, >> The loop on Channel 1 is on , the one on Channel 2 is off. >> * The Loop button does currently not reflect its toggle state, >> is in the making https://bugs.launchpad.net/mixxx/+bug/438817 >> * Where to put the Mixxx logo? >> >> Some questions for dev: >> * Is there a way to display <Color> and <DisabledColor> in waveform >> overview >> so the loop overlay appear same as in the waveform? >> > * Is there a way to display <cue_point> in waveform overview? >> > >> Changelog v0.80b (09 January 2010) >> >> New >> - In,Out & Loop buttons for looping function >> - Color marker for cue points & loop points >> - Color overlay for loops in waveform >> >> Changed >> - Size is now 1024x570 to fit Netbook`s resolution even when not in >> Fullscreen mode >> - simple background color in Library view instead alternating colors to >> make it less annoying on the eyes >> - small cosmetic changes >> >> <screenshot_mixxx_r2250_latenight_080b.png> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community >> Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support >> A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and >> easy >> Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev >> _______________________________________________ >> Mixxx-devel mailing list >> Mixxx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixxx-devel >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community > Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support > A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and > easy > Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers > http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Mixxx-devel mailing list > Mixxx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixxx-devel > >
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