The manual still needs a fair bit of work -- if a section looks like it was updated for 1.12 then it's probably safe to translate that.
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Ferran Pujol Camins < ferranpujolcam...@gmail.com> wrote: > Are the manual sources updated? I can translate to Spanish and Catalan but > I'd like to wait until I know the sources won't change anymore (or change > very slightly). > > 2015-07-22 16:12 GMT+02:00 RJ Ryan <rr...@mixxx.org>: > >> Daniel/RAWRR are right -- the goal posts are moving slightly and we're >> scope creeping. >> >> Active, trivial / low-risk PRs can merge if they are ready but shouldn't >> be blocking. >> >> For me, the final blocker is the manual and website / press material -- >> which we simply can't launch without. :) >> >> Best regards, >> RJ >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 8:11 AM, Ferran Pujol Camins < >> ferranpujolcam...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> From my point of view, marketing wise, we could consider 1.12 a modest >>> release. Because despite the huge amount of work there's behind it, every >>> review out there will essentially say "it is great and finally have FX, but >>> the built in FX are weak". >>> >>> So my modest opinion is the same that Daniel. >>> El dia 22/07/2015 12:16, <re-cy...@hushmail.com> va escriure: >>> >>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>> Hash: SHA1 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 06:28:38 +0000 "Daniel Schürmann" >>>> <dasch...@mixxx.org> wrote: >>>> >Hi, >>>> > >>>> >We have to be careful to consider what is a release blocker. >>>> >Mixxx 1.12 beta is already so much better than 1.11 that it is not >>>> >worth to >>>> >block it at all from this point of view. >>>> > >>>> >Of cause we should try to fix all critical bugs before a release >>>> >date, but >>>> >in this stage I consider a >>>> >release blocker only a regression that prevents one from using >>>> >1.12. >>>> >>From this point of view only this one is a blocker: >>>> >* flaky broadcasting connections: LP 1277274 >>>> > >>>> >The other topics are its the over all quality issue. >>>> > >>>> >Everyone can already use 1.12 beta. What is the difference to a >>>> >1.12 >>>> >release? >>>> >IMHO it is all the shiny stuff that makes the difference from a >>>> >project to >>>> >a product. >>>> >It is marketing, design, manual, advertising texts, screen shots >>>> >and so on. >>>> >A product with good maketing/design is always considered as high >>>> >quality, >>>> >regardless >>>> >of the number of critical bugs. >>>> > >>>> >Unfortunately marketing experts are rare among our contributors. >>>> >Any Idea to change this? >>>> > >>>> >>>> Yeah. >>>> >>>> If the betas really are that close, arrive at a consensus regarding >>>> some reasonable candidate among these beta versions to designate as >>>> a release, publish it, and continue on behind the scenes >>>> developing, like you do. >>>> >>>> Mixxx is marketed really well already. If you are thinking >>>> representation to the public is unclear, consider that perception >>>> will be clarified when the download page has a "release", and >>>> further accentuated with the usual rounds of well-crafted press >>>> submissions to various DJ industry and tech sites and magazines >>>> (which one of you folks usually does that anyway?). >>>> >>>> It seems like everyone in development wants 1.12 to be a singular, >>>> glorious debut - but I think looking for that misses the mark. >>>> There is an actual glorious debut, but it was and is the momentum >>>> in productivity that fired up six months or so ago and will push >>>> all the way through 1.12 to the continuing evolution of the >>>> project, and a more modern style of development cycle. >>>> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> >>>> Also my personal two cents about the roadmap (apologies if it is >>>> off-base): I think new feature sprawl might be happening? If so, I >>>> myself probably contributed to it. I know this observation won't be >>>> popular!! Everyone wants and loves new features. But I think many >>>> of the debates going on will be less exasperating and more >>>> manageable when there are fewer projects underway in general. >>>> Between 1.11 and 1.12, so much got piled on the plate!! Even as >>>> someone without responsibilities free to simply observe, I find it >>>> difficult to keep track of all the threads underway. >>>> >>>> ~RAWRR >>>> >>>> >Kind regards, >>>> > >>>> >Daniel >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >2015-07-22 7:55 GMT+02:00 Be <b...@gmx.com>: >>>> > >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> On 07/22/2015 12:00 AM, Sébastien BLAISOT wrote: >>>> >> > Hi all, >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Some more blockers : >>>> >> > >>>> >> > * (win) installing 1.12 on top of a previous version >>>> >installation >>>> >> > (lp:1457618) => PR621 is *still* waiting for merge. Please >>>> >review and >>>> >> > discuss if we move version to beta2 >>>> >> > >>>> >> > * (win) Eject symbol not shown in LateNight skin (lp:1454649) >>>> >=> PR627 >>>> >> > is *still* waiting for review and merge >>>> >> >>>> >> Who can review these? Who uses Windows? >>>> >> >>>> >> > About startup time, I noticed, under windows, that startup >>>> >time is >>>> >> > *very* long if I have network shares mounted and a slow (like >>>> >> > slooooooow) network connection. Mixxx probably tries to >>>> >enumerate all >>>> >> > drives at startup, even network ones. I think it should be >>>> >limited to >>>> >> > local drives. Launch time is short if I unmount network shares >>>> >before >>>> >> > launching mixxx. Hope this can be of any help in sorting out >>>> >this issue. >>>> >> >>>> >> Why does Mixxx need to enumerate all drives at startup? >>>> >Shouldn't it >>>> >> only need to enumerate drives that the library is configured to >>>> >scan in? >>>> >> >>>> >> > --- >>>> >> > Sébastien Blaisot >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Le 22/07/2015 00:03, Be a écrit : >>>> >> > >>>> >> >> Where are we now? Let's make a list of release blockers: >>>> >> >> * skin polish: Ferran's updates to LateNight in PR #639 is a >>>> >good step >>>> >> >> and he said he'd work on Deere too >>>> >> >> * weird bug with library search bar focus in LateNight: >>>> >> >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/mixxx/+bug/1462061 >>>> >> >> * Startup time: Mixxx takes a long time to start up on some >>>> >systems. PR >>>> >> >> #655 and PR #650 will alleviate the issue without risking >>>> >regressions by >>>> >> >> messing with the startup code much. >>>> >> >> * Opus crash: LP 1458380 >>>> >> >> * flaky broadcasting connections: LP 1277274 >>>> >> >> * key sorting: PR #649 in progress >>>> >> >> * updating documentation links: PR #657 >>>> >> >> * manual updates. IMO the people who wrote new features >>>> >should be the >>>> >> >> ones who explain how they work. >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> * Electrix Tweaker mapping: PR #638 is almost ready. I ran >>>> >into a bug >>>> >> >> where I couldn't exit a loop using my controller last night. >>>> >I'm not >>>> >> >> sure if it was an issue with the mapping or Mixxx. >>>> >> >> * Pioneer DDJ-SB mapping: How is progress on this Joan? Can >>>> >you put it >>>> >> >> on GitHub? See >>>> >> >> http://mixxx.org/wiki/doku.php/midi_scripting#setting_up_git >>>> >>>> >for >>>> >> setting >>>> >> >> up git for mappings. >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> On 06/14/2015 12:33 PM, Sébastien Blaisot wrote: >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> OK, trying to gather what we said about "1.12 release >>>> >blockers": >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> Done: >>>> >> >>> * skin polish (Jus has an active Deere branch) => PR579 & >>>> >PR608 merged. >>>> >> >>> * (win) installing 1.12 on top of a previous version >>>> >installation => >>>> >> >>> PR621 waiting for merge >>>> >> >>> * (win) Uninstalling Mixxx leave files behind => PR603 >>>> >merged >>>> >> >>> * (win) Incorrect preferences folder path => PR606 merged >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> Remaining: >>>> >> >>> * critical Windows bugs => RJ told he will have a look at >>>> >them. can we >>>> >> >>> list the critical blockers here ? >>>> >> >>> * skin polish (Jus has an active Deere branch) => bug >>>> >lp:1454649 >>>> >> >>> remaining. Is there other work needed ? >>>> >> >>> * website updates (RJ ryan is working on this). We also need >>>> >to open >>>> >> >>> more languages for website translation on transifex. it's >>>> >actually >>>> >> >>> limited to english, german, portuguese and Turkish. I can >>>> >make french >>>> >> >>> (france) translation. >>>> >> >>> * manual updates => Does somebody work on this actually ? >>>> >> >>> * avoid flanger warning message for shipped with mixxx >>>> >controller >>>> >> >>> mappings (hack it by making an ignore list) => Does somebody >>>> >work on >>>> >> >>> this actually ? >>>> >> >>> * XDG folders under Linux : We have to decide if it is a >>>> >1.12 issue or >>>> >> >>> if we postpone it. see lp:1463273 and PR622 >>>> >> >>> * Unstable broadcasting stream => lp:1277274 >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> Is there any other blockers ? >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >------------- >>>> >> >> Don't Limit Your Business. 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