Hi Markus, thank you for you second library model.
We have discussed such a model earlier, but it was difficult to generalize is in the back-end. The current model has a nice generalized object model. See the exploded drawing on: http://www.mixxx.org/wiki/doku.php/library_layout_redesign For my feeling the switching of the left pane will happen "as expected". If done right, it will offer the right view for every common use case without being cluttered. The left pane could always support the DJ best for the specific task. Paired with a new drop target, it will IMHO work well. If you wish to do a mock-up, you may Inkscape and this template: https://github.com/jmigual/mixxxDocuments/blob/master/Layout_2.svg or any other tool. > Actually from a UX point of view I don't really like the approach to > re-use the left pane for all open rightPanes, because users may be > confused of it switching around all the time. What about such a solution?: > > By default have the Button-Bar, the Tree next to it and the TrackTable > visible (mainly as it is today, but with the button bar added). > > A Button in the skin to open an additional RightPane next to it (or > anywhere it fits) and there having a kind of drop-down in the header of > the new RightPane with which you can select the feature to load. > If the pane is empty, you could choose from Library, AutoDJ, Crates, > Playlists. > If you select Library, you get the usual Track-Table loaded inside the pane. > If you select Crates, the list of all crates is loaded to the pane, > which can then be used as drop-targets for sorting (see above). > Then you can click on one Crate-Name to show the content of the crate in > the pane instead. The drop-Down at the top would then show (Library, > AutoDJ, Crates, -divider-, [insertAllCratesHere], -divider-, Playlists). > So that you can quickly switch between crates and also to other > LibraryFeatures. If we could make that drop-down with expandable items > and sub items, one could also directly select a crate from the default > view, but thats maybe to complicated. > > Like that one has the fast and easy access to one feature at set-time, > but the flexibility to open an other pane if needed to sort tracks. > If you have a wide display, you could also open multiple LibraryFeatures > next to each other, to have 80th, 90th and MegaHits open for quick > access in a set. Maybe you only need the Artist and Track information, > than you could fit a massive amount of Crates/Playlists/+AutoDJ next to > each other. On a small screen you still have the clean layout we have > nowadays. > > I hope one understands my Idea. If needed I could make drafts of it to > make it more clear. > > Keep up the good work! > Markus > > Am 05.06.2016 um 11:45 schrieb Daniel Schürmann: >> Hi Ferran, >> >> thank you for your ideas. >> >>> The second way is the "Copy to Context menu". Unfortunately the >>> menu vanishes after the copy. Conclusion: Not easy. >>> >>> Why is this "not easy"? >>> >> This IS easy for a single track, but not for many, lets say new tracks. >> I am afraid, this menu becomes unhandy if we have crates hierarchies. >> Maybe we can replace it with something cool that fixes the other issue >> as well. >> >>> How about adding a root node to the Crates and Playlist Feature >>> that displays the All tracks? That would allow dragging any track >>> to any Crate /Playlist. >>> >>> >>> 1) This doesn't allow users to add tracks from playlist to crates. >>> >> Yes, a solution would be to combine the crates an playlists feature. >> However a separate feature may allows us to add cool new things to the >> left pane individual. >> >>> 2) Maybe the user is looking at the auto-dj queue and thinks "this >>> track is totally hot, I should add it to the Hits crate". He can't >>> because from the auto-dj pane he can't access the playlist tree. For >>> me this is not a solution. >>> >> The main task for the autodj's left pane is to define the transitions. >> The user can already use the context menu or open a second pane, but >> this might be not straight forward enough. >> >>> once we have a Crate hierarchies, it could be as hard to drop to >>> one from 100 crates. This cam be solved ba a Bookmark feature that >>> contains only a few relevant Crates. >>> >>> What do you think? Any other idea? >>> >>> Keep showing the whole tree of features in every pane: Show the tree >>> corresponding to the current pane. Add an additional node, collapsed >>> by default that shows the whole tree. Something like this: >>> >>> -Crate 1 >>> -Crate 2 >>> ---Sub Crate 2.1 >>> -Crate 3 >>> -Full Tree >>> ---... >>> >>> >>> Isn't this a simple but effective solution? >>> >> IMHO we should careful consider what is the most required contend on the >> feature's left pane. Sorting tracks to different crates / playlists is >> only one aspect. It should not clutter the left pane one one hand, but >> there is a valid demand to have always an easy access to crates and >> playlist as drop targets. >> >> You idea, goes to the right direction. >> >> Full Tree: I think we do not nee the legacy full tree, we need a tree of >> all drop targets, right? The crates and playlist tree should be sufficient. >> >> A full tree node, on every left pane breaks somehow the ButtoBar + >> Fetaure Idea. >> How can we combine both? >> >> How about move this Full Tree node as button to the button bar. This >> could be a special feature without a right pane. >> >> The most difficult case, seams to be the single feature view: ButtonBar >> + AutoDJ left pane + AutoDJ track list. >> Form this view, the user can drag a track from the AutoDJ track list, >> hover to the Full Tree button on the button bar. >> this will enable the drop target tree on the left pane keeping the >> AutoDJ track list in the right pane. >> Now he can sort all tracks as desired. >> >> @JOAN, will this fit to your Backend model? Will it replace the single >> cates and playlist features? >> Do we still need to copy to context menu? >> >>> I want to remark that is quite important to allow users to configure >>> the new library to look similar to current one (one single pane + >>> complete tree). Feature specific tree + collapsable complete tree >>> would also work for me. >> I am not sure if I missed a point, why it is required to keep a view >> that look similar to current one. Is there an other use case we have >> missed? >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Daniel >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic >> patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are >> consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, >> J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity >> planning reports. https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/305295220;132659582;e >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Get Mixxx, the #1 Free MP3 DJ Mixing software Today >> http://mixxx.org >> >> >> Mixxx-devel mailing list >> Mixxx-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mixxx-devel >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? 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