Hi,
as it is the design now, when the user tries to drag a song to a playlist
when it selects the song the let pane will change and it won't allow to
drag the song to the desired playlist. My idea was to allow the user to
drag the song(s) directly to the button bar, so when the user does this
automatically the left pane of the feature below the mouse is shown.
For example to add a song to the crate "Crate 11" with these crates
- Crate 1
+ Sub "Crate 11"
- Crate 2
- Crate 3
1) Select desired song in some feature (library, AutoDJ, another crate,
playlists...)
2) Drag song to Crates button in Button bar without releasing the mouse
3) The left pane of Crates is shown (crates tree)
4) Release the mouse over "Crate 11" tree item
another option (complementary with this proposed) is that if the user
releases the mouse when is over the button pane (instead of the tree item
in the example) a context menu is open allowing to select which tree item
is the receiver of the selected song. To do this with the previous example
it will be like this:
1) Select desired song in some feature(library, AutoDJ, another crate,
playlists...)
2) Drag song to Crates button in Button bar and release the mouse
3) A context menu is shown only with crates elements
4) Select the desired crate to add the song
And Daniel with this I think that there will be no need for the Full tree
and we can continue to use the current back-end model. Also the copy to
context menu it will be necessary to allow the user to add a song to a
crate/playlist with a controller instead than a mouse (I suppose that when
you refer copy to context menu you are referring the "add to playlist...",
"add to crate..." options of the context menu.
By the way Markus the condensed library looks interesting, with this it
will be possible to have multiple right panes showing at the same time or
only one right pane and different CondensedLibraries?
Oh and RAWRR yes there will be a playlists button it does not appear
because I haven't added in the draw for simplicity. The idea is not to
remove buttons ;)
I will be waiting for your answer,
Joan
On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 at 16:04 Markus Klösges <mkloes...@gmx.de> wrote:
> I hope this list can handle attachments and it won't get squashed into
> the text.
>
> See an attached mockup to (hopefully) make it more clear. A skin could
> have as many CondensedLibraries as it wants to have and they would be
> independent of each other.
>
> I don't know if we would need a LibraryPaneManager for every Pane, maybe
> one Manager for the whole stuff is enough.
> Each LibraryFeature provides the widget for left and right pane and an
> additional DropDownPopulator that is working similar to the current
> getChildModel() they provide to build the sub-tree but is used to add
> elements to the dropDown.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Am 05.06.2016 um 14:50 schrieb Markus Klösges:
> > Hi Daniel,
> >
> > > We have discussed such a model earlier, but it was difficult to
> > > generalize is in the back-end.
> > Hm, I don't really get that point.
> >
> > Each library Feature would need
> > * a 'default' widget, if no child element of it is selected (Playlists
> > would display all Playlists there),
> > * a widget for the left pane (for Playlists that would be a tree/list
> > of all the playlists in DB)
> > * a widget if a child element is selected (which would be the
> > track-table-widget for the Playlists).
> > * a list of child-Elements to display in the dropDown
> >
> > despite the last point, all that is also needed and planned for the
> > other approach - isn't it? And such a List wouldn't be so dramatic to
> > implement I think.
> >
> > Then one would need an additional WCondensedLibrary to display the
> > LibraryFeatures without the leftPane but with a dropDown at the top.
> >
> > Probably I'm not into it as deep as you guys. So don't hesitate to tell
> > me I'm wrong ;-)
> > I just like to understand the difference in your approach to learn from
> > it ;-)
> >
> > Am 05.06.2016 um 14:13 schrieb Daniel Schürmann:
> >> Hi Markus,
> >>
> >> thank you for you second library model.
> >>
> >> We have discussed such a model earlier, but it was difficult to
> >> generalize is in the back-end.
> >>
> >> The current model has a nice generalized object model.
> >> See the exploded drawing on:
> >> http://www.mixxx.org/wiki/doku.php/library_layout_redesign
> >>
> >> For my feeling the switching of the left pane will happen
> >> "as expected".
> >> If done right, it will offer the right view for every common use case
> >> without being cluttered.
> >> The left pane could always support the DJ best for the specific task.
> >> Paired with a new drop target, it will IMHO work well.
> >>
> >> If you wish to do a mock-up, you may Inkscape and this template:
> >> https://github.com/jmigual/mixxxDocuments/blob/master/Layout_2.svg
> >> or any other tool.
> >>
> >>
> >>> Actually from a UX point of view I don't really like the approach to
> >>> re-use the left pane for all open rightPanes, because users may be
> >>> confused of it switching around all the time. What about such a
> solution?:
> >>>
> >>> By default have the Button-Bar, the Tree next to it and the TrackTable
> >>> visible (mainly as it is today, but with the button bar added).
> >>>
> >>> A Button in the skin to open an additional RightPane next to it (or
> >>> anywhere it fits) and there having a kind of drop-down in the header of
> >>> the new RightPane with which you can select the feature to load.
> >>> If the pane is empty, you could choose from Library, AutoDJ, Crates,
> >>> Playlists.
> >>> If you select Library, you get the usual Track-Table loaded inside the
> pane.
> >>> If you select Crates, the list of all crates is loaded to the pane,
> >>> which can then be used as drop-targets for sorting (see above).
> >>> Then you can click on one Crate-Name to show the content of the crate
> in
> >>> the pane instead. The drop-Down at the top would then show (Library,
> >>> AutoDJ, Crates, -divider-, [insertAllCratesHere], -divider-,
> Playlists).
> >>> So that you can quickly switch between crates and also to other
> >>> LibraryFeatures. If we could make that drop-down with expandable items
> >>> and sub items, one could also directly select a crate from the default
> >>> view, but thats maybe to complicated.
> >>>
> >>> Like that one has the fast and easy access to one feature at set-time,
> >>> but the flexibility to open an other pane if needed to sort tracks.
> >>> If you have a wide display, you could also open multiple
> LibraryFeatures
> >>> next to each other, to have 80th, 90th and MegaHits open for quick
> >>> access in a set. Maybe you only need the Artist and Track information,
> >>> than you could fit a massive amount of Crates/Playlists/+AutoDJ next to
> >>> each other. On a small screen you still have the clean layout we have
> >>> nowadays.
> >>>
> >>> I hope one understands my Idea. If needed I could make drafts of it to
> >>> make it more clear.
> >>>
> >>> Keep up the good work!
> >>> Markus
> >>>
> >>> Am 05.06.2016 um 11:45 schrieb Daniel Schürmann:
> >>>> Hi Ferran,
> >>>>
> >>>> thank you for your ideas.
> >>>>
> >>>>> The second way is the "Copy to Context menu". Unfortunately the
> >>>>> menu vanishes after the copy. Conclusion: Not easy.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Why is this "not easy"?
> >>>>>
> >>>> This IS easy for a single track, but not for many, lets say new
> tracks.
> >>>> I am afraid, this menu becomes unhandy if we have crates hierarchies.
> >>>> Maybe we can replace it with something cool that fixes the other issue
> >>>> as well.
> >>>>
> >>>>> How about adding a root node to the Crates and Playlist Feature
> >>>>> that displays the All tracks? That would allow dragging any
> track
> >>>>> to any Crate /Playlist.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1) This doesn't allow users to add tracks from playlist to crates.
> >>>>>
> >>>> Yes, a solution would be to combine the crates an playlists feature.
> >>>> However a separate feature may allows us to add cool new things to the
> >>>> left pane individual.
> >>>>
> >>>>> 2) Maybe the user is looking at the auto-dj queue and thinks "this
> >>>>> track is totally hot, I should add it to the Hits crate". He can't
> >>>>> because from the auto-dj pane he can't access the playlist tree. For
> >>>>> me this is not a solution.
> >>>>>
> >>>> The main task for the autodj's left pane is to define the transitions.
> >>>> The user can already use the context menu or open a second pane, but
> >>>> this might be not straight forward enough.
> >>>>
> >>>>> once we have a Crate hierarchies, it could be as hard to drop to
> >>>>> one from 100 crates. This cam be solved ba a Bookmark feature
> that
> >>>>> contains only a few relevant Crates.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What do you think? Any other idea?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Keep showing the whole tree of features in every pane: Show the tree
> >>>>> corresponding to the current pane. Add an additional node, collapsed
> >>>>> by default that shows the whole tree. Something like this:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Crate 1
> >>>>> -Crate 2
> >>>>> ---Sub Crate 2.1
> >>>>> -Crate 3
> >>>>> -Full Tree
> >>>>> ---...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Isn't this a simple but effective solution?
> >>>>>
> >>>> IMHO we should careful consider what is the most required contend on
> the
> >>>> feature's left pane. Sorting tracks to different crates / playlists is
> >>>> only one aspect. It should not clutter the left pane one one hand, but
> >>>> there is a valid demand to have always an easy access to crates and
> >>>> playlist as drop targets.
> >>>>
> >>>> You idea, goes to the right direction.
> >>>>
> >>>> Full Tree: I think we do not nee the legacy full tree, we need a tree
> of
> >>>> all drop targets, right? The crates and playlist tree should be
> sufficient.
> >>>>
> >>>> A full tree node, on every left pane breaks somehow the ButtoBar +
> >>>> Fetaure Idea.
> >>>> How can we combine both?
> >>>>
> >>>> How about move this Full Tree node as button to the button bar. This
> >>>> could be a special feature without a right pane.
> >>>>
> >>>> The most difficult case, seams to be the single feature view:
> ButtonBar
> >>>> + AutoDJ left pane + AutoDJ track list.
> >>>> Form this view, the user can drag a track from the AutoDJ track list,
> >>>> hover to the Full Tree button on the button bar.
> >>>> this will enable the drop target tree on the left pane keeping the
> >>>> AutoDJ track list in the right pane.
> >>>> Now he can sort all tracks as desired.
> >>>>
> >>>> @JOAN, will this fit to your Backend model? Will it replace the single
> >>>> cates and playlist features?
> >>>> Do we still need to copy to context menu?
> >>>>
> >>>>> I want to remark that is quite important to allow users to configure
> >>>>> the new library to look similar to current one (one single pane +
> >>>>> complete tree). Feature specific tree + collapsable complete tree
> >>>>> would also work for me.
> >>>> I am not sure if I missed a point, why it is required to keep a view
> >>>> that look similar to current one. Is there an other use case we have
> >>>> missed?
> >>>>
> >>>> Kind regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Daniel
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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