Yeah that's the one. Is that the one you were talking about? I already
bought one and put it on the car, thanks for the offer though.

Jim Weinheimer
[email protected]
85 2.0L 16v GTI
85 Golf


>If you are referring to the shorter speedo cable that connects to the black
>box, then I have one of those for sale.  I only want like $10 and it was
>used for like 200 miles.

>

>Brandt

>89 GTI 16v

>

>-------Original Message-------

>

>From: jimvish

>Date: Sunday, June 17, 2001 10:55:03 AM

>To: [email protected]

>Subject: Re: 160mph Scirocco Speedo Installed

>

>The two piece speedo cable is still available, I just bought one last week

>from the VW dealer when mine fell apart while installing the 140mph cluster.

>$27. The cluster now works great for everyone that saw my earlier posts.

>

>Jim Weinheimer

>[email protected]

>85 2.0L 16v GTI

>85 Golf

>

>

>>- I installed a new speedo cable as well. My old cable was a two piece

>type, with the black box mileage counter in between. I went with a one

>piece cable, as the two piece cables are not available any more (AFAIK).

>What a pain in the neck it is to get that speedo cable attached to the back

>of the cluster. 

>>

>>- Lastly, now that the oxygen sensor mileage counter is gone (black box), I

>came up with an idea. Being that I now have an LED in my cluster that won't

>be used (the center light on early 16vs is labeled 'OXS'), I thought about

>what I could use it for. Well, for some time now, my full throttle switch

>intermitently worked. I have the TT Fuel Enrichment, so sometimes I wasn't

>even getting the benefit of it. Now, I have a lead from the full throttle

>switch connected (with a relay, to reverse the ground) directly to that

>center LED in the dash. I added the relay, and tapped into the lead from

>the OXS mileage counter plug (didn't have to cut any wires at all, all was

>done under the hood) When the throttle is fully opened now, I get a LED on

>the dash letting me know. The red LED bothered me, so I put a yellow one in

>from an extra cluster I had laying around. I also scanned in the little

>piece of metal with the 5 icons (turn signal, alternator, oxs, oil pres,

>highbeams) into photoshop, and add the Techtonics Tuning logo in place of

>the OXS. Printed out on a good laser printer, glued it, looks awesome.

>Definitely useful as an indicator light. I will probably take some pics

>tommorrow, so if anyone is interested, let me know.

>>

>>Denis G.

>>1987 GTI 16v

>>http://come.to/veedubs

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>><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Today I had enough time to put the 160
>scirocco 

>>speedo I bought off of ebay in my car.&nbsp; No major install issues, buts
>its 

>>pretty cool looking down and see a less cluttered speedo (20 mph increments
>vs 

>>the regular 10mph) and seeing 160 is pretty nice.&nbsp; Also, the speedo

>starts 

>>at 10mph (not zero like most other clusters), so the needle doesnt move at
>all 

>>until you are doing at least 10mph. Too bad the car could probably only do
>135 

>>or so (0.75 fifth gear) but I guess that's not the point of it
></FONT></DIV>

>><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anyway, a few points:</FONT></DIV>

>><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>

>><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-&nbsp; The rocco speedo (out of an 87
>Scirocco) 

>>doesn't have a MFA.&nbsp; Obviously, I didnt want to loose my trip

>computer, so 

>>I ended up swapping the speedo itself into my existing cluster.&nbsp; I had
>

>>originally planned to just swap clusters, without taking apart my original 

>>cluster.&nbsp; Also, the 160 speedo did not have the speed sensor like my
>140 

>>had, so I had to cut some plastic and add that as well (for the mpg and
>other 

>>features to work)</FONT></DIV>

>><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>

>><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>- I installed a new speedo cable as

>well.&nbsp; My 

>>old cable was a two piece type, with the black box mileage counter in 

>>between.&nbsp; I went with a one piece cable, as the two piece cables are
>not 

>>available any more (AFAIK).&nbsp; What a pain in the neck it is to get that
>

>>speedo cable attached to the back of the cluster.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>

>><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>

>><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>- Lastly, now that the oxygen sensor mileage 

>>counter is gone (black box), I came up with an idea.&nbsp; Being that I now

>have 

>>an LED in my cluster that won't be used (the center light on early 16vs is 

>>labeled 'OXS'), I thought about what I could use it for.&nbsp; Well, for
>some 

>>time now, my full throttle switch intermitently worked.&nbsp; I have the TT

>Fuel 

>>Enrichment, so sometimes I wasn't even getting the benefit of it.&nbsp; Now
> I 

>>have a lead from the full throttle switch connected (with a relay, to
>reverse 

>>the ground) directly to that center LED in the dash.&nbsp;&nbsp;I added the
>

>>relay, and tapped into the lead from the&nbsp;OXS mileage counter plug
>(didn't 

>>have to cut any wires at all, all was done under the hood)&nbsp; When the 

>>throttle is fully opened now, I get a LED on the dash letting me

>know.&nbsp; The 

>>red LED bothered me, so I put a yellow one in from an extra cluster I had

>laying 

>>around.&nbsp; I also scanned in the little piece of metal with the 5 icons

>(turn 

>>signal, alternator, oxs, oil pres, highbeams) into photoshop, and add the 

>>Techtonics Tuning logo in place of the OXS.&nbsp; Printed out on a good
>laser 

>>printer, glued it, looks awesome.&nbsp; Definitely useful as an indicator 

>>light.&nbsp; I will probably take some pics tommorrow, so if anyone is 

>>interested, let me know.</FONT></DIV>

>><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>

>><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Denis G.</FONT></DIV>

>><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1987 GTI 16v</FONT></DIV>

>><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A 

>>href="http://come.to/veedubs";>http://come.to/veedubs</A></FONT></DIV>

>><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>

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>>

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>      <DIV>If you are referring to the shorter speedo cable that connects
to the 
>      black box, then I have one of those for sale.&nbsp; I only want like $10 
>      and it was used for like 200 miles.</DIV>
>      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>      <DIV>Brandt</DIV>
>      <DIV>89 GTI 16v</DIV>
>      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>      <DIV id=IncrediOriginalMessage><I>-------Original
Message-------</I></DIV>
>      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>      <DIV id=receivestrings>
>      <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>From:</B></I> <A 
>      href="mailto:[email protected]";>jimvish</A></DIV>
>      <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Date:</B></I> Sunday, June
17, 
>      2001 10:55:03 AM</DIV>
>      <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>To:</B></I> <A 
>      href="mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</A></DIV>
>      <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Subject:</B></I> Re: 160mph 
>      Scirocco Speedo Installed</DIV></DIV>
>      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>The two piece speedo cable is still available, I just 
>      bought one last week<BR>from the VW dealer when mine fell apart while 
>      installing the 140mph cluster.<BR>$27. The cluster now works great for 
>      everyone that saw my earlier posts.<BR><BR>Jim Weinheimer<BR><A 
>      href="mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</A><BR>85 2.0L 16v 
>      GTI<BR>85 Golf<BR><BR><BR>&gt;- I installed a new speedo cable as
well. My 
>      old cable was a two piece<BR>type, with the black box mileage counter in 
>      between. I went with a one<BR>piece cable, as the two piece cables
are not 
>      available any more (AFAIK).<BR>What a pain in the neck it is to get that 
>      speedo cable attached to the back<BR>of the cluster. <BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;- 
>      Lastly, now that the oxygen sensor mileage counter is gone (black box), 
>      I<BR>came up with an idea. Being that I now have an LED in my cluster
that 
>      won't<BR>be used (the center light on early 16vs is labeled 'OXS'), I 
>      thought about<BR>what I could use it for. Well, for some time now, my
full 
>      throttle switch<BR>intermitently worked. I have the TT Fuel
Enrichment, so 
>      sometimes I wasn't<BR>even getting the benefit of it. Now, I have a lead 
>      from the full throttle<BR>switch connected (with a relay, to reverse the 
>      ground) directly to that<BR>center LED in the dash. I added the
relay, and 
>      tapped into the lead from<BR>the OXS mileage counter plug (didn't
have to 
>      cut any wires at all, all was<BR>done under the hood) When the
throttle is 
>      fully opened now, I get a LED on<BR>the dash letting me know. The red
LED 
>      bothered me, so I put a yellow one in<BR>from an extra cluster I had 
>      laying around. I also scanned in the little<BR>piece of metal with the 5 
>      icons (turn signal, alternator, oxs, oil pres,<BR>highbeams) into 
>      photoshop, and add the Techtonics Tuning logo in place of<BR>the OXS. 
>      Printed out on a good laser printer, glued it, looks 
>      awesome.<BR>Definitely useful as an indicator light. I will probably
take 
>      some pics<BR>tommorrow, so if anyone is interested, let me 
>      know.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Denis G.<BR>&gt;1987 GTI 16v<BR>&gt;<A 
>
href="http://come.to/veedubs";>http://come.to/veedubs</A><BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>
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>      bgColor=#ffffff&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=Arial
size=2&gt;Today 
>      I had enough time to put the 160 scirocco <BR>&gt;speedo I bought off of 
>      ebay in my car.&amp;nbsp; No major install issues, buts its
<BR>&gt;pretty 
>      cool looking down and see a less cluttered speedo (20 mph increments vs 
>      <BR>&gt;the regular 10mph) and seeing 160 is pretty nice.&amp;nbsp;
Also, 
>      the speedo<BR>starts <BR>&gt;at 10mph (not zero like most other
clusters), 
>      so the needle doesnt move at all <BR>&gt;until you are doing at least 
>      10mph. Too bad the car could probably only do 135 <BR>&gt;or so (0.75 
>      fifth gear) but I guess that's not the point of 
>      it.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=Arial 
>      size=2&gt;Anyway, a few 
>
points:&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR
>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT 
>      face=Arial size=2&gt;-&amp;nbsp; The rocco speedo (out of an 87
Scirocco) 
>      <BR>&gt;doesn't have a MFA.&amp;nbsp; Obviously, I didnt want to
loose my 
>      trip<BR>computer, so <BR>&gt;I ended up swapping the speedo itself
into my 
>      existing cluster.&amp;nbsp; I had <BR>&gt;originally planned to just
swap 
>      clusters, without taking apart my original <BR>&gt;cluster.&amp;nbsp; 
>      Also, the 160 speedo did not have the speed sensor like my 140 
>      <BR>&gt;had, so I had to cut some plastic and add that as well (for the 
>      mpg and other <BR>&gt;features to 
>
work)&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&
gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT 
>      face=Arial size=2&gt;- I installed a new speedo cable 
>      as<BR>well.&amp;nbsp; My <BR>&gt;old cable was a two piece type, with
the 
>      black box mileage counter in <BR>&gt;between.&amp;nbsp; I went with a
one 
>      piece cable, as the two piece cables are not <BR>&gt;available any more 
>      (AFAIK).&amp;nbsp; What a pain in the neck it is to get that 
>      <BR>&gt;speedo cable attached to the back of the 
>
cluster.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;
/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT 
>      face=Arial size=2&gt;- Lastly, now that the oxygen sensor mileage 
>      <BR>&gt;counter is gone (black box), I came up with an idea.&amp;nbsp; 
>      Being that I now<BR>have <BR>&gt;an LED in my cluster that won't be used 
>      (the center light on early 16vs is <BR>&gt;labeled 'OXS'), I thought
about 
>      what I could use it for.&amp;nbsp; Well, for some <BR>&gt;time now, my 
>      full throttle switch intermitently worked.&amp;nbsp; I have the
TT<BR>Fuel 
>      <BR>&gt;Enrichment, so sometimes I wasn't even getting the benefit of 
>      it.&amp;nbsp; Now, I <BR>&gt;have a lead from the full throttle switch 
>      connected (with a relay, to reverse <BR>&gt;the ground) directly to that 
>      center LED in the dash.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;I added the <BR>&gt;relay,
and 
>      tapped into the lead from the&amp;nbsp;OXS mileage counter plug (didn't 
>      <BR>&gt;have to cut any wires at all, all was done under the 
>      hood)&amp;nbsp; When the <BR>&gt;throttle is fully opened now, I get
a LED 
>      on the dash letting me<BR>know.&amp;nbsp; The <BR>&gt;red LED
bothered me, 
>      so I put a yellow one in from an extra cluster I had<BR>laying 
>      <BR>&gt;around.&amp;nbsp; I also scanned in the little piece of metal
with 
>      the 5 icons<BR>(turn <BR>&gt;signal, alternator, oxs, oil pres,
highbeams) 
>      into photoshop, and add the <BR>&gt;Techtonics Tuning logo in place
of the 
>      OXS.&amp;nbsp; Printed out on a good laser <BR>&gt;printer, glued it, 
>      looks awesome.&amp;nbsp; Definitely useful as an indicator 
>      <BR>&gt;light.&amp;nbsp; I will probably take some pics tommorrow, so if 
>      anyone is <BR>&gt;interested, let me 
>
know.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&
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>      G.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=Arial 
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