One idea I thought might be part of the problem. Check that the timing belt tensioner is good. When those bearings go bad, it can make a lot of noise (buzzer?) It can also compromise timing which would make the motor run badly, especially if the belt jumped a tooth. Just a thought
Les On Dec 25, 2015 8:27 AM, "Holland Phillips" <[email protected]> wrote: > Another thing you could do that may help to identify the source of the > problem is take a magnet, like one of those extendable magnetic retrievers, > and see if it picks up the metallic shavings you mentioned. If they're non > magnetic, then it may indicate that something is rubbing against the head. > Just a suggestion... > > ~Holland > On Dec 24, 2015 23:29, "damac2004" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> sorry this car has a 16v motor. i have been driving it for a couple >> months so the noise and loping is definately different and made me want to >> shut the car off. >> >> no ac hardware installed i think somebody yanked it and did things the >> wrong way. >> >> i got a bently manual and assume i will have to break things down to >> check, i guess i was just looking for some real world experience. >> >> i just assumed something was getting jammed up in a way to put load on >> the timing belt side to make it lope at idle. but that coupled with the >> oil light and shavings near the im shaft makes me fear its the engine side. >> i can't even move a pulley when tugging by hand right now. >> >> i had a diesel vacuum pump sieze up once and stopped the im shaft dead. >> you could hear the belt screeching, oil light went off and you could smell >> the belt. that was the craziest thing i have ever seen, was using a rotary >> type and the gear shaved grooves into the cover. >> >> >> after i got it towed home last night i had to start it and move it onto >> the driveway. started and ran as normal with no oil pressure light but i >> didn't want to warm it up. wasn't loping but all the clattery >> racket/scratching can be heard especially after stabbing the throttle and >> letting off. >> >> >> >> On Thursday, December 24, 2015 at 10:35:01 PM UTC-8, stevenarguello wrote: >>> >>> The 8v distributor runs off of the intermediate shaft along with the oil >>> pump. If it jumped a tooth or two the spark timing would be off. The 16v >>> dizzy runs off the cam. >>> Does it have A/C? >>> >>> >>> >>> On Dec 24, 2015, at 12:22 PM, damac2004 <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I'm new to these cars. I got one of these a few months ago and planned >>> on using it as a project to restore for fun. I have been driving it as is >>> because it worked. I do have to get it smogged and clean up some neglect >>> but it was getting me around ok with no funky noises. >>> >>> Yesterday I came off the freeway and all of a sudden the high pressure >>> oil buzzer constantly started going off. I heard a racket of screeches and >>> clunks in the engine bay and the engine was loping near idle speed. So too >>> many wierd things at once to ignore, but I had to get off the road so i >>> probably ran the car about a minute after before turning it off. just >>> putting my safety first because of where i was vs. potentially blowing up a >>> motor. >>> >>> i had to work and came back to cold car. i have good fluids and started >>> it up for a bit. it ran with just the hint of stumbling although i don't >>> know if these cars typically do that while warming up. it wasn't loping >>> the same. i reved it and didn't get the light to come on but noticed the >>> racket sounded like its on the drive belt system. while engine was running >>> only odd thing i noticed is shavings i think near the intermediate shaft >>> from the lower plastic timing belt cover. couldn't quite tell if another >>> pully was actually touching it. >>> >>> im i correct to assume that if something in vbelt system dragged all it >>> would do is slow down the timing belt, but that would still turn the im >>> shaft without interference? >>> >>> is it possible a pulley wobbled its way into the im shaft and held it >>> up? i sure didn't smell smoking timing belt and will have to look closer. >>> it has power steering, alternator, water pump with 2 vbelts. >>> >>> or maybe something bad happned inside engine with oil pump or the im >>> bearings and the pulley side is worn and walking out and hitting? >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MK2-16v" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/mk2-16v. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mk2-16v/af959f0b-50cd-474c-917b-f978104e7adb%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mk2-16v/af959f0b-50cd-474c-917b-f978104e7adb%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MK2-16v" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/mk2-16v. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mk2-16v/64bed5b2-e9a0-4945-bf86-26e23998cd74%40googlegroups.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mk2-16v/64bed5b2-e9a0-4945-bf86-26e23998cd74%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MK2-16v" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/mk2-16v. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mk2-16v/CABrbKB%3D_gsNqh_UEFXFn_%2BJMkrJCv%3DPXc%3DxfQJ-%3DJdoUkweLLA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mk2-16v/CABrbKB%3D_gsNqh_UEFXFn_%2BJMkrJCv%3DPXc%3DxfQJ-%3DJdoUkweLLA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MK2-16v" group. 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