Those are some good suggestions. However there is one point that I must disagree with you on:
> The adoption of the horse heraldry is new, chosen after the Curse. > Previous to that it could've been anything (I know little of the Hassan > house history; griffon or drake would seem likely). The have been a couple stories that indicate the horse has always been a part of the Hassan family heraldry. This sentence from "Lots" shows how Thomas thinks about being changed to match his heraldry > > The tablecloth was laced with golden thread, and an artistic blending of > the Hassan horse heraldry – he’d always found that terribly ironic after > the curse changed him – and the fields and flowers of the valley. > And in this scene from "Landing in a New Age", Andwyn finds it strange that Dupré would end up a ram like his family's symbol till Thomas points out the same thing happened to him. Malisa goes on to say that it's still a very rare circumstance. > “It would be very unusual for the Curse to strike in so coincidental a > fashion,” Andwyn mused quietly. > > “It happened to me,” Thomas pointed out. “The Hassan coat of arms has > always featured a rearing horse.” > > “But not to any of your other vassals,” Malisa pointed out. “Perhaps this > is a sign to us as well as to him. If he is truly changed to reflect his > family’s sigil, then he may be meant to stay here and serve you.” > I missed the above reference to a rearing horse in my previous search, so it would seem that Matt originally used a rearing horse as the symbol and only later started describing it as a horse-head. -AlexSurikat On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Ryx <[email protected]> wrote: > Let's try this: > The banner of Metamor itself, alone, not withstanding of the ruling House > is a castle of three towers, below each a gate. Gray on green (castle > stone, valley green). The shape of the banner itself is up to the tailor > making it. > > Duke Thomas' banner is a stallion (or just horse) rampant dexter (rearing, > facing right) with a bend sinister (bar, crossing opposite the rampant > dexter). The banner itself is blue (for House Hassan), the horse typically > red (for his Knighthood), but when placed on the banner of Metamor the > horse may be blue. The top of either banner would have crenelations or > 'embattled line' to indicate the fortress nature of Metamor. The > remeberance of the Tree Gates may be included below the horse by some > symbology on more complex banners. Usually just three free-standing > castle-style arched portals at the feet of the horse, or slightly behind > denoting that the Horse, and House Hassan, holds the Keep. > > Historically blue meant Truth and Loyalty, and red Martial arms. Since > Thomas rules over a peaceful kingdom over a conquesting one blue would be a > more appropriate color. (http://www.oshel.com/symbols.htm) > > > The adoption of the horse heraldry is new, chosen after the Curse. > Previous to that it could've been anything (I know little of the Hassan > house history; griffon or drake would seem likely). > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Alex Green <[email protected]> > *To:* C. Matthias <[email protected]> > *Cc:* christian okane <[email protected]>; " > [email protected]" <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2013 5:34 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [Mkguild] possible MK banner/logo > > After searching through the archives for a while, I was surprised to find > that there aren't very many descriptions of the banner of Metamor. > > I found the most complete description at the bottom of the third page of > Misha's "Plain and Simple" > > Thomas looked to the top of the ruined tower and noticed the flag > fluttering in the breeze. It was a black flag with a red rearing horse on > it. It was the flag of the House Hassan, Duke of Metamor, King of the > Midland, his own banner. > > > LurkingWolf's "Burning Time" also mention a rearing horse on the flag but > neglects to mention the colors > > It appears Matt is the only one who's described it as a horse-head in both > "Gazing through a Barred Window" and "Healing Wounds in Arabarb", but I > didn't see any mention of colors from him either. > > Raven didn't mention what was on the flag, but he had a different idea > about the colors of Metamor in "A Presence of Thieves" > > "That isn't the Duke's banner," he said, frowning up at the yellow flags > flapping in the breeze. "Metamor's colors are blue and white. Why would > they be flying yellow flags?" > > > Matt confirms that blue is a customary color of the Hassan family in the > first interlude of "The Last Tale of Yajakali" with several mentions of > "Hassan Blue" but never actually states whether it's the color of the > banner or not. (By the way, I just noticed that the title at the top of > every page of LOTY has Yajakali spelled wrong as "Yajikali") > > The wiki unsurprisingly agrees with Misha since he's the one who added > that information on the "Knights of the Red Stallion" page on the 16th of > January 2007 (it specifically says that their emblem is the same as the > Duke's). He also added the emblem information to the Duke's page earlier > this month. > > That is all of the information I could find relating to the > flag/banner/emblem of the House of Hassan/Metamor Keep, so it seems the > it is a red/blue rearing-stallion/horse-head on a black/white background. > I never noticed how inconsistent its description was before. > > -AlexSurikat > > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 4:00 AM, C. Matthias <[email protected]> wrote: > > At 03:40 AM 2/21/2013, christian okane wrote: > > That is a nice looking emblem but one small problem. The Horse in the > emblem has always been red. > > Chris > The Lurking Fox > > > The only reference to red in the emblem that I am aware of comes from the > knightly order "Order of the Red Stallion". Please provide other official > references (Wiki entries do not count). > > > May He bless you and keep you in His grace and love, > > Charles Matthias > ______________________________**_________________ > MKGuild mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.integral.org/listinfo/mkguild > > > > _______________________________________________ > MKGuild mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.integral.org/listinfo/mkguild > > >
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