I'm forwarding this to help with out little discussion.
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*From:* Andrew Vineyard <[email protected]>
*To:* Ryx <[email protected]>
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:09 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Mkguild] Nasoj's emblem
Ah. Need someone to forward it to the mailing list?
On 7/30/2013 7:29 PM, Ryx wrote:
> No, it did not reply-all from my phone.
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> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: Andrew Vineyard <[email protected]>
> <mailto:[email protected]>
> Date: 07/30/2013 6:56 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: Ryx <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Mkguild] Nasoj's emblem
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> Was this sent to the mkguild mail list too? I didn't see it there.
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> On 7/30/2013 6:13 PM, Ryx wrote:
>> Considering dragons are very real in MK, and Nasoj is not
>> currently allied with any nor has any in his service adopting a
>> dragon on his heraldry might attract undue attention from dragons
>> not pleased at his arrogance.
>>
>> I propose something of a different, more mystical, nature.
>> Either a wyvern (identifiable as such by the scorpion stinger on
>> the tail), or more fantasic still in the form of a three-headed
>> chimeric beast similar to griffon heraldry of old.
>> Each head would signify a different auspice: corporeal power,
>> divine or infernal power (Ba'al's sole nod on the heraldry), and
>> arcane power. Secondary heraldric symbols might be used as well
>> to denote Nasoj's House, which is pretty much that exact symbol
>> since whatever the Dark Keep was before his ascension has been
>> effectively wiped out entirely.
>>
>> Nasoj would not be foolish enough to put a daedric symbol
>> directly on his kingdom's heraldry as that would incur the wrath
>> of every other daedric lord and their mortal faithful - such as
>> Lom (beholden to Lilith) both outside of his borders as trade
>> partners and nominal allies and those powers within who would
>> strive to cast ba'al worship down in favor of their god.
>> By having that separation Nasoj can play dieific politics much
>> more easily.
>> It also keeps aedric faithful off of his doorstep... more or less.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
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>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Andrew Vineyard <[email protected]>
>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> Date: 07/30/2013 5:37 PM (GMT-06:00)
>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Mkguild] Nasoj's emblem
>>
>>
>> Dragons are awesome and cool. Thing is they are a symbol of
>> power. Those who use it tend to be those who believe they are all
>> powerful. Probably powerful enough to actually command dragons.
>> Most of them usually end up learning they aren't all that
>> powerful when they meet a dragon in person.
>>
>> The only other time a dragon is used as a symbol is if it's
>> bestowed upon you. Usually like a gift from a dragon, saying that
>> your allowed to use their image. In short, it's like you've been
>> accepted into their family or under their protection. So if they
>> allow you, it's a great honor. If you do it yourself, it can be
>> seen as an insult to some of them.
>>
>> On 7/30/2013 3:41 PM, Ian Jones wrote:
>>> But... I like dragons. I know too many nice dragons to throw
>>> them in with Nasoj!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Narwhal KillerNarwhal
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>>> I could draw it up once somebody decides...
>>> On Jul 29, 2013 1:27 PM, "christian okane"
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>>> Did we ever give Nasoj an emblem or heraldic device?
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