IF Fedora Core 2 settles all the issues I wrote (I doubt however since I
did not try I cannot say) THEN .. Yeah ... that is the whole point!
 
In terms of user usability etc .... Linux is ONLY reaching user
usability NOW!! MS have had a VERY good user usability since Windows
2000.
 
Always ASSUMING that FC2 is as good as Win2000 in terms of user
usability!

regards, 
  
David Vella - GFI Software Ltd. - www.gfi.com 
Messaging, Content Security & Network security software 
GFI: FAXmaker - LANguard - MailSecurity - DownloadSecurity 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raphael Borg Ellul
Vincenti
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 10:54 AM
To: Malta Linux User Group - general list
Subject: Re: [LINUX.ORG.MT] Linux/Windows


>From what I am reading... try and use an updated distro. Try Fedora
Core 2.

David Vella wrote:


        Hi All,
        
        I just turned full time Linux (RH9) on my home PC a month ago
however I
        still use Win2k at work.
        
        I guess I can say I am a Win power user and a basic Linux user.
Before
        that I installed Linux last month, it was only in 1998 that I
had used
        it last (RH7x) and I must say that it has improved a LOT from
the
        usability side.
        
        Anyway, so at home I need mostly a web browser, irc client,
email client
        and IM (MSN/ICQ) client.  For IM I tried both Gaim and also
AMSN.  Amsn
        sucks UI wise and Gaim is good.  I needed to install Gaim - just
that
        took me a week or so (just evenings) of downloading rpm's and
sources.
        A lot of dependencies and at some point I was just going to
throw the
        towel however I persisted.  Now it is working - except that
receiving
        files does not work.
        
        I still think that the Linux I have (RH9 - KDE) is not yet
available for
        the home user.  I try to imagine my gf use it .. And that
terrorizes me
        - no thanks .. I don't want to spend my free time supporting a
linux
        machine.  
        
        I still didn't try to connect by USB stick, my P800 or my Clie
to my RH9
        ... Do not even know if such drivers exist for them, does USB
work well
        on Linux? I mean .. Is it really plug and play? I am scared of
trying
        them out ...
        
        Ohhh ... And when it comes to server configuration, the default
tools
        provided by KDE suck .. only webmin saves the day.
        
        My Kmail email client still crashes, and has some quit quirky
issues,
        still cannot find a decent email client.  Best email no-frills
emails
        client out there is MS Outlook Express .. From what I saw
obviously.
        Why is it that from all the Linux email clients I used, they
persisted
        into adding the signature at the VERY end of the email (i.e.
after all
        the replies etc...)....  
        
        When browsing using Mozilla my fonts do not show well .. May
need to get
        reading glasses soon it seems.
        
        The User Interface of linux applications is 'designed' by geek
devs.
        Sorry .. But in most cases, geek devs are good for development
and not
        for usability.  Do any standards exists as how to program user
        interfaces with usability in mind?
        
        Also .. Why is it that by default, when you click a window title
bar it
        rolls up instead of maximizing/sizing it? YES .. I KNOW that
just
        because Windows does that then it does not mean that Linux
interfaces
        has to be like that .. However .. Hey, if you want to start
'migrating'
        users from Windows to Linux then you have to make the process as
less
        painful as possible.  Too much is expected from home users
(non-linux
        geeks).  
        
        Why not have a Linux distro/app which absracts the Linux file
folders
        view and makes them look like windows ? No /sbin and stuff ..
        
        It CANNOT be expected that Normal home users learn everything
from
        scratch.  Microsoft won already in that respect, what Linux
should do at
        this point is to make itself look and FEEEELL much more than
windows!!
        Basically .. Same look and FEEL (notice CAPS) however totally
different
        internals.
        
        Just some rants and raves .. Which can go on for ever ... 
        
        (boring mode)
        
        regards,
          
        David Vella - GFI Software Ltd. - www.gfi.com
        Messaging, Content Security & Network security software
        GFI: FAXmaker - LANguard - MailSecurity - DownloadSecurity
        
        
        -----Original Message-----
        From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ramon Casha
        Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 9:59 AM
        To: Malta Linux User Group - general list
        Subject: Re: [LINUX.ORG.MT] Linux/Windows
        
        On Thursday 27 May 2004 08:42, Raphael Borg Ellul Vincenti
wrote:
          

                The problem as I see it with the standardization of RPMs
is that 
                different distros have different dependencies for the
same rpm.
                    

        
        Precisely... and that's where the main work lies. They *could*
make RPMs
        distribution-independent. It would take some coordinated effort
though.
        
          

                BTW.... the added traffic on this mailing list is a
welcome change.
                
                    

        
        LOL yes. One moment it's as if the list was lifeless, the next a
zillion
        new messages fall on my mailbox like a nice soft feather tied to
a
        truckload of bricks.
        
        Ramon Casha
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