I still think There is a need to have an easy way to register AS A MEMBER of
mlug, rather than just registering on the site and on this list. And the
registration form is nowhere to be seen on the website :-(

Since Membership is free, it should/could be tied to registering on the
website. Also A few Posters wouldn't be a bad idea ... anyone has access to
a large format printer?

Philip


On 14/03/07, Andrew Micallef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I know....really sorry!! Thunderbird was reporting all sorts of errors
when trying to post and i thought they weren't being sent and i was
wrong!!

Further info about courses at
http://miti.gov.mt/site/page.aspx?pageid=2603 . I will definitely spread
the word around.

Andrew

James Attard wrote:
> Andrew I think that was the zillionth time actually :)
>
> Anyways, I'm attending those classes myself (they began this week) and
> I'm promoting this community. You can do the same with your class.
>
> Cheers!
>
> James
>
>
> On 3/14/07, *Andrew Micallef*
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
>     Really sorry for the multiple sending of my mail!
>
>     Michael Connors wrote:
>      > Hi,
>      > I think most people dont actually know what windows or linux are,
>     they
>      > are just computer jargon like 80gb or 256mb sdrram.
>      >
>      > KDE and Windows XP are not any more different than XP and Vista,
the
>      > main problem is that people creating files in Open Office will be
>      > wondering why they cant view those same files in MS Office on
their
>      > friends machine.
>      >
>      > I guess that is why PC vendors dont want to ship with Linux, they
>     will
>      > be inudated with support calls because people dont understand or
>     care
>      > about different formats, as far as they are concerned it is
broken.
>      >
>      > By the way, my last 3 distros have detected all my hardware out
>     of the box.
>      >
>      > On 14/03/07, *Andrew Micallef*
>      > < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>      > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote:
>      >
>      >     Hey,
>      >
>      >     Well this is my second time I ever said something here but
>     thought i
>      >     put
>      >     a suggestion :).
>      >
>      >     I personally am going to attend the Linux Education Programme
the
>      >     government is offering to learn more and to get a basic
>     certificate.
>      >     Maybe it would be a good idea that some kind of poster or
>     something is
>      >     present in the classroom so that participants at the course
>     are aware of
>      >     this community and maybe join. Probably not everyone
>     attending this
>      >     course is aware of this, and i think one problem of people
>     getting
>      >     scared of using Linux is because they're not sure who to ask
>     if they got
>      >     stuck somewhere. I think we have to face it that it's still
>     not as easy
>      >     as Windows say to install video card drivers or install some
>     third
>      >     party
>      >     software. It was one my scares too but luckily i got some
>     some heavy
>      >     linux users working with me, thus it wasn't a problem to get
>     help.
>      >
>      >     I think one best way to encourage people is by word of mouth
>     and the
>      >     least that can be done for a start is promoting more
>     linux.org.mt <http://linux.org.mt>
>      >     <http://linux.org.mt> and
>      >     this thread in such activities. I don't think it will take
>     much effort,
>      >     unless you guys are aware of some bureaucracy problems since
>     it's a
>      >     government thing.
>      >
>      >     Andrew
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >     Jean Azzopardi wrote:
>      >      > IMHO, wifi is the big obstacle here. Multimedia support
>     the second.
>      >      >
>      >      > However, with regard to wifi, it should be improving.
Also, in
>      >     Feisty
>      >      > (Ubuntu 7.04), multimedia support should be much improved,
>     as in, you
>      >      > double click on an mp3, and it will install the codecs for
>     you.
>      >      >
>      >      > With regard to Open Office, I use it all the time..thing
>     is I no
>      >     longer
>      >      > use Windows now. Cross Over Office is quite good, glad you
>     like it.
>      >      >
>      >      > SUSE...I don't like it at all...IMHO, Ubuntu is better.
>      >      >
>      >      > QUOTE :
>      >      >
>      >      >    The fact is that the bulk of users want their computer
for
>      >     specific tasks,
>      >      > but the Linux distis are more focused on arcane
>     discussions about
>      >     licence
>      >      > conditions. This helps convince Mr A User that buying a
Linux
>      >     computer will not
>      >      > give him a computer with the functionality he needs.
>      >      >
>      >      >
>      >      > You are dissing the distros because of license conditions.
The
>      >     thing is,
>      >      > that if problems with the patents (like mp3, etc) occur,
>     then the
>      >     distro
>      >      > could get sued, and also its users...something which can
be
>      >     extremely
>      >      > harmful.
>      >      >
>      >      > Drivers...well, I've heard a lot about the issues
>     regarding the
>      >      > packaging of binary drivers with distributions. IMHO,
neither
>      >     NVIDIA nor
>      >      > ATI's drivers are that difficult to install in
>     Ubuntu...just use
>      >     Envy, a
>      >      > gui app you can find on the net.
>      >      >
>      >      > P.S. I can view WMV files just fine with mplayer plugin in
>      >     Firefox..no
>      >      > problems there.
>      >      >
>      >      > Graham Petley wrote:
>      >      >> Hallo,
>      >      >>
>      >      >>    The problem I have seen on the posts here is the same
>     one can
>      >     read in Linux
>      >      >> magazines. An oversell of Linux.
>      >      >>    IMHO Linux is not easy to install. I recently tried
>     upgrading
>      >     my Suse laptop
>      >      >> to the latest version and failed. No Gnome apps like GIMP
>     which
>      >     I need worked
>      >      >> and I couldn't figure out what was wrong. I switched to
>     Ubuntu
>      >     which now I
>      >      >> think is better, but this too required a lot of manual
>      >     intervention to get
>      >      >> working fully. For example, WLAN didn't work and I had to
>      >     install something
>      >      >> called NetworkManager Applet myself.
>      >      >>    I don't know why many apps needed for a fully
functional
>      >     Ubuntu installation
>      >      >> are not installed as a default, but that's the way it is.
>     The
>      >     biggest value
>      >      >> added of pre-installed Linux is that everything has been
>      >     installed and works.
>      >      >>
>      >      >>    The other oversell is to claim that Linux apps are
>     just as
>      >     good and fully
>      >      >> compatible with M$ ones. This isn't my experience at all.
>     None
>      >     of my fancy
>      >      >> Excell spredsheets work in Gnumeric or Calc, and chart
>      >     compatibility is even
>      >      >> worse. I use Crossover Office for M$ Office apps and it
works
>      >     well (at least
>      >      >> for Excel which is the only one I'm still using). I think
a
>      >     pre-installed Linux
>      >      >> should include Crossover or other solution which would
>     allow the
>      >     user to
>      >      >> install his own M$ Office and have it running immi.
>      >      >>
>      >      >>    I also find media support problematic. The ability to
>     watch
>      >     the realplayer
>      >      >> videos on the BBC news site for example is not consistent
>     on my
>      >     laptop, and I
>      >      >> guess that watching WMV files is even more difficult. Mr
>     Average
>      >     User doesn't
>      >      >> want to see messages about missing codecs when he wants
>     to view
>      >     a web video.
>      >      >> Actually I don't either.
>      >      >>
>      >      >>    The fact is that the bulk of users want their computer
for
>      >     specific tasks,
>      >      >> but the Linux distis are more focused on arcane
discussions
>      >     about licence
>      >      >> conditions. This helps convince Mr A User that buying a
Linux
>      >     computer will not
>      >      >> give him a computer with the functionality he needs.
>      >      >>
>      >      >>    The key to commercial success is providing a Linux
>     computer
>      >     at a lower cost
>      >      >> with the functionality users want and being precise about
>     what
>      >     will not work.
>      >      >>
>      >      >> Graham Petley
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