Hi,
I think most people dont actually know what windows or linux are, they are
just computer jargon like 80gb or 256mb sdrram.

KDE and Windows XP are not any more different than XP and Vista, the main
problem is that people creating files in Open Office will be wondering why
they cant view those same files in MS Office on their friends machine.

I guess that is why PC vendors dont want to ship with Linux, they will be
inudated with support calls because people dont understand or care about
different formats, as far as they are concerned it is broken.

By the way, my last 3 distros have detected all my hardware out of the box.

On 14/03/07, Andrew Micallef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hey,

Well this is my second time I ever said something here but thought i put
a suggestion :).

I personally am going to attend the Linux Education Programme the
government is offering to learn more and to get a basic certificate.
Maybe it would be a good idea that some kind of poster or something is
present in the classroom so that participants at the course are aware of
this community and maybe join. Probably not everyone attending this
course is aware of this, and i think one problem of people getting
scared of using Linux is because they're not sure who to ask if they got
stuck somewhere. I think we have to face it that it's still not as easy
as Windows say to install video card drivers or install some third party
software. It was one my scares too but luckily i got some some heavy
linux users working with me, thus it wasn't a problem to get help.

I think one best way to encourage people is by word of mouth and the
least that can be done for a start is promoting more linux.org.mt and
this thread in such activities. I don't think it will take much effort,
unless you guys are aware of some bureaucracy problems since it's a
government thing.

Andrew



Jean Azzopardi wrote:
> IMHO, wifi is the big obstacle here. Multimedia support the second.
>
> However, with regard to wifi, it should be improving. Also, in Feisty
> (Ubuntu 7.04), multimedia support should be much improved, as in, you
> double click on an mp3, and it will install the codecs for you.
>
> With regard to Open Office, I use it all the time..thing is I no longer
> use Windows now. Cross Over Office is quite good, glad you like it.
>
> SUSE...I don't like it at all...IMHO, Ubuntu is better.
>
> QUOTE :
>
>    The fact is that the bulk of users want their computer for specific
tasks,
> but the Linux distis are more focused on arcane discussions about
licence
> conditions. This helps convince Mr A User that buying a Linux computer
will not
> give him a computer with the functionality he needs.
>
>
> You are dissing the distros because of license conditions. The thing is,
> that if problems with the patents (like mp3, etc) occur, then the distro
> could get sued, and also its users...something which can be extremely
> harmful.
>
> Drivers...well, I've heard a lot about the issues regarding the
> packaging of binary drivers with distributions. IMHO, neither NVIDIA nor
> ATI's drivers are that difficult to install in Ubuntu...just use Envy, a
> gui app you can find on the net.
>
> P.S. I can view WMV files just fine with mplayer plugin in Firefox..no
> problems there.
>
> Graham Petley wrote:
>> Hallo,
>>
>>    The problem I have seen on the posts here is the same one can read
in Linux
>> magazines. An oversell of Linux.
>>    IMHO Linux is not easy to install. I recently tried upgrading my
Suse laptop
>> to the latest version and failed. No Gnome apps like GIMP which I need
worked
>> and I couldn't figure out what was wrong. I switched to Ubuntu which
now I
>> think is better, but this too required a lot of manual intervention to
get
>> working fully. For example, WLAN didn't work and I had to install
something
>> called NetworkManager Applet myself.
>>    I don't know why many apps needed for a fully functional Ubuntu
installation
>> are not installed as a default, but that's the way it is. The biggest
value
>> added of pre-installed Linux is that everything has been installed and
works.
>>
>>    The other oversell is to claim that Linux apps are just as good and
fully
>> compatible with M$ ones. This isn't my experience at all. None of my
fancy
>> Excell spredsheets work in Gnumeric or Calc, and chart compatibility is
even
>> worse. I use Crossover Office for M$ Office apps and it works well (at
least
>> for Excel which is the only one I'm still using). I think a
pre-installed Linux
>> should include Crossover or other solution which would allow the user
to
>> install his own M$ Office and have it running immi.
>>
>>    I also find media support problematic. The ability to watch the
realplayer
>> videos on the BBC news site for example is not consistent on my laptop,
and I
>> guess that watching WMV files is even more difficult. Mr Average User
doesn't
>> want to see messages about missing codecs when he wants to view a web
video.
>> Actually I don't either.
>>
>>    The fact is that the bulk of users want their computer for specific
tasks,
>> but the Linux distis are more focused on arcane discussions about
licence
>> conditions. This helps convince Mr A User that buying a Linux computer
will not
>> give him a computer with the functionality he needs.
>>
>>    The key to commercial success is providing a Linux computer at a
lower cost
>> with the functionality users want and being precise about what will not
work.
>>
>> Graham Petley
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