Really sorry for the multiple sending of my mail!
Michael Connors wrote: > Hi, > I think most people dont actually know what windows or linux are, they > are just computer jargon like 80gb or 256mb sdrram. > > KDE and Windows XP are not any more different than XP and Vista, the > main problem is that people creating files in Open Office will be > wondering why they cant view those same files in MS Office on their > friends machine. > > I guess that is why PC vendors dont want to ship with Linux, they will > be inudated with support calls because people dont understand or care > about different formats, as far as they are concerned it is broken. > > By the way, my last 3 distros have detected all my hardware out of the box. > > On 14/03/07, *Andrew Micallef* > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > Hey, > > Well this is my second time I ever said something here but thought i > put > a suggestion :). > > I personally am going to attend the Linux Education Programme the > government is offering to learn more and to get a basic certificate. > Maybe it would be a good idea that some kind of poster or something is > present in the classroom so that participants at the course are aware of > this community and maybe join. Probably not everyone attending this > course is aware of this, and i think one problem of people getting > scared of using Linux is because they're not sure who to ask if they got > stuck somewhere. I think we have to face it that it's still not as easy > as Windows say to install video card drivers or install some third > party > software. It was one my scares too but luckily i got some some heavy > linux users working with me, thus it wasn't a problem to get help. > > I think one best way to encourage people is by word of mouth and the > least that can be done for a start is promoting more linux.org.mt > <http://linux.org.mt> and > this thread in such activities. I don't think it will take much effort, > unless you guys are aware of some bureaucracy problems since it's a > government thing. > > Andrew > > > > Jean Azzopardi wrote: > > IMHO, wifi is the big obstacle here. Multimedia support the second. > > > > However, with regard to wifi, it should be improving. Also, in > Feisty > > (Ubuntu 7.04), multimedia support should be much improved, as in, you > > double click on an mp3, and it will install the codecs for you. > > > > With regard to Open Office, I use it all the time..thing is I no > longer > > use Windows now. Cross Over Office is quite good, glad you like it. > > > > SUSE...I don't like it at all...IMHO, Ubuntu is better. > > > > QUOTE : > > > > The fact is that the bulk of users want their computer for > specific tasks, > > but the Linux distis are more focused on arcane discussions about > licence > > conditions. This helps convince Mr A User that buying a Linux > computer will not > > give him a computer with the functionality he needs. > > > > > > You are dissing the distros because of license conditions. The > thing is, > > that if problems with the patents (like mp3, etc) occur, then the > distro > > could get sued, and also its users...something which can be > extremely > > harmful. > > > > Drivers...well, I've heard a lot about the issues regarding the > > packaging of binary drivers with distributions. IMHO, neither > NVIDIA nor > > ATI's drivers are that difficult to install in Ubuntu...just use > Envy, a > > gui app you can find on the net. > > > > P.S. I can view WMV files just fine with mplayer plugin in > Firefox..no > > problems there. > > > > Graham Petley wrote: > >> Hallo, > >> > >> The problem I have seen on the posts here is the same one can > read in Linux > >> magazines. An oversell of Linux. > >> IMHO Linux is not easy to install. I recently tried upgrading > my Suse laptop > >> to the latest version and failed. No Gnome apps like GIMP which > I need worked > >> and I couldn't figure out what was wrong. I switched to Ubuntu > which now I > >> think is better, but this too required a lot of manual > intervention to get > >> working fully. For example, WLAN didn't work and I had to > install something > >> called NetworkManager Applet myself. > >> I don't know why many apps needed for a fully functional > Ubuntu installation > >> are not installed as a default, but that's the way it is. The > biggest value > >> added of pre-installed Linux is that everything has been > installed and works. > >> > >> The other oversell is to claim that Linux apps are just as > good and fully > >> compatible with M$ ones. This isn't my experience at all. None > of my fancy > >> Excell spredsheets work in Gnumeric or Calc, and chart > compatibility is even > >> worse. I use Crossover Office for M$ Office apps and it works > well (at least > >> for Excel which is the only one I'm still using). I think a > pre-installed Linux > >> should include Crossover or other solution which would allow the > user to > >> install his own M$ Office and have it running immi. > >> > >> I also find media support problematic. The ability to watch > the realplayer > >> videos on the BBC news site for example is not consistent on my > laptop, and I > >> guess that watching WMV files is even more difficult. Mr Average > User doesn't > >> want to see messages about missing codecs when he wants to view > a web video. > >> Actually I don't either. > >> > >> The fact is that the bulk of users want their computer for > specific tasks, > >> but the Linux distis are more focused on arcane discussions > about licence > >> conditions. This helps convince Mr A User that buying a Linux > computer will not > >> give him a computer with the functionality he needs. > >> > >> The key to commercial success is providing a Linux computer > at a lower cost > >> with the functionality users want and being precise about what > will not work. > >> > >> Graham Petley > >> _______________________________________________ > >> MLUG-list mailing list > >> [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > >> http://mailserv.megabyte.net/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ > MLUG-list mailing list > [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > http://mailserv.megabyte.net/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list > > > > > -- > Michael Connors > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > MLUG-list mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailserv.megabyte.net/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list _______________________________________________ MLUG-list mailing list [email protected] http://mailserv.megabyte.net/mailman/listinfo/mlug-list
