I don't expect stability, have used alphas and betas, and debian unstable
many times in the past... this is several notches below what I have
experienced before.  I cannot believe they can turn it around in a month.
 That's the nub of it.  I suspect that they need to cancel the release,
because I'm really not convinced that it is just my hardware, or just a few
integration issues.  They simply do not have time to fix the huge number of
things that are busted.

On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Andrew Oulton <[email protected]>wrote:

> Well it is still a month away from being released so there is little reason
> to expect it to be stable.  If you feel like you're just a guinea pig, it's
> because YOU ARE :)
>
> Andrew
>  On 2011-03-27 9:32 AM, "Peter Silva" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > <rant>
> > I speak as an ubuntu fan, with a house full of ubuntu's, and long
> > experience. natty not just slightly painful. It is seriously unusably bad
> > regressions awful... on 10.10, I was used to not having suspend/resume,
> to
> > having to stop looking at video to keep the graphics chip from
> overheating
> > (triggering a shutdown) but 11.04 is far, far worse. the trackpad (this
> > might be hardware) doesn't work, there isn't anywhere to set it. The
> > wireless no longer works (not a driver issue, I start up wpa_supplicant &
> > dhclient by hand and it's fine about half the time, the rest of the time,
> it
> > refuses to associate. I rmmod ath9k, then modprobe it again, and then I
> can
> > get bandwidth back. I just leave it alone for a few hours, it is always
> > crashed/hung... I suspect it's the open source X drivers not dealing well
> > with GL screen savers, because it doesn't crash much when I stay in front
> of
> > it. I will refrain from talking about Unity beyond saying it is clearly
> not
> > ready in a thousand ways, I switched to xfce to get away, which was less
> > foreign, but all the hardware issues remain. (tests done mostly with
> > alpha3) losing all the knobs to adjust things, it is just a really big
> step
> > backwards. I worry that in trying to make Unity, which should be a big
> > step forwards, people are forgetting just how many little details went
> into
> > making ubuntu/gnome actually work. I was a kubuntu user for years but had
> > recently switched to the gnome stream because of all the little things
> that
> > didn't work. The unity people have years of work to do before we get to
> > usability parity with the classic desktop. It's just so unspeakably bad
> > that I don't even have the courage to submit a bug report, it isn't even
> > close to being usable, it just feels like a complete waste of time.
> > Seriously, Canonical cannot be serious about this. It isn't going to
> work.
> > </rant>
> >
> > I feel better now...
>
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