I appreciate your feedback about rejection of Fedora with GUI lxde. I never 
used LXDE, and probably most users of Fedora have never used it either.  I have 
standardized with Gnome3,  also use KDE and XFCE.   These work extremely well, 
for what I do, and flawlessly.

So, your complaint was not about Fedora but it's implementation of LXDE.  Would 
you confirm this?

Was your version of Fedora 32 or 64bit?  

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Regards  
 Leslie
 Mr. Leslie Satenstein
50 years in Information Technology and going strong.
Yesterday was a good day, today is a better day,
and tomorrow will be even better.
 
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--- On Tue, 8/7/12, Brian van den Broek <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Brian van den Broek <[email protected]>
Subject: [MLUG] I surrender [WAS:] Re: gotchas for refugee from 
ubuntu/debian-land new to Fedora?
To: "Montreal Linux Users Group" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, August 7, 2012, 4:44 PM

On 2 August 2012 20:54, Hendrik Boom <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 02, 2012 at 06:17:40PM -0400, Brian van den Broek wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> This morning, I've installed Fedora 17 (LXDE edition) on my desktop.
>> I've run only debian derivatives (mostly ubuntu and crunchbang). I've
>> been running linux exclusively since 2005.
>
> I.ve been running Linux since sometime in the 90'sI've gone througha
> number of distros, including RedHat and other commecial ones.  A number
> of years ago someone recommended Debian, and I've been completely happy
> with it ever sincce.  I run Debian stable on my server, and Debian
> testing on my client machines -- and it's Debian itself, ot a
> derivative.


Hi all,

Well, I gave it 5 days, and 1) Fedora and I shall now part, while we
are still on speaking terms and 2) I've decided Hedrik's and Mathieu's
original words of advice were wise. I'm now looking into installing
straight-up debian.

For those keeping score, I'm giving up on Fedora because, while I did
expect to have some bumpiness while I earning the fedora way, there's
been too much struggle. Some highlights (lowlights?):

- I lost several hours figuring out why I couldn't ssh in. Turns out
it is an Fedora LXDE-specific bug that causes incoming connections to
be rejected until you've refreshed the default firewall settings.

- lxpanel pins the cpu to 100% once you've been running for a few
hours and click on it too often in too short a time. A bug was first
filled against F10 and labelled "won't fix" because F10 reached
end-of-life.

- mounting authorization dialogs sometimes show up in the wrong
account's desktop (while logged in as one user with another account
logged in in the background, the dialog pops up on the background
user's desktop), and sometimes not at all. As a result, mounting
devices sometimes works and sometimes does not. Switching to automount
diminshed but did not eliminate mounting sadness.

- in 5 days, I've three time come back to my machine after a few hours
and found a frozen screensaver and an unresponsive box that could be
recovered only by hitting the reset button on the case.

- the default music player for Fedora17 LXDE crashes with a
segmentation fault the first time you click on the UI after launch.

- rythmbox crashes frequently when in use.

- some applications have boxes with circles in them (I don't know the
technical term) in the UI in place of text characters. Obviously some
sort of unicode issue, but it really ought not be happening on a fresh
install.

Some or even all of that is surely the LXDE integration; I'd expect
the mainline Gnome3 F17 to not have all of these issues. But, I don't
want G3. I'm also sure that with time I could fix some, most, or all
of these. However, I don't want to devote that much effort to
plumbing; my threshold has been reached.

Thanks for all the responses and input!

Let's see if starting a debian thread produces as much list traffic :-)

Best,

Brian vdB
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