It seems to me that what Samuel wants is not wholly at odds with SRS; it would just require a complete reinvention of how Mnemosyne is engineered.
What Samuel has not seemed to grasp is that there are two classes of information in the deck, and they are stored in the same file. One class is the actual data that displays on the cards, the content. The other is the learner's performance data for each card, including how many times and when it's been reviewed, how difficult it is, etc. SRS works by updating this performance data every time a card is reviewed, to control when the card will next be scheduled. It seems to me that it's by no means strictly necessary for the content data and performance data to occupy the same file. For a school environment you could (theoretically) lock the content data, while having a separate file that contains the performance data for all the students, with each student being given a password that enables the system to update only their performance data in this file as the cards are reviewed. There would still be the same issue of the danger of tampering, until some form of user login is implemented on the computer(s) (on Macs this is easy to do--don't know about PCs), but the teacher could make regular backups of both files. Of course, this would practically involve rewriting Mnemosyne from scratch to achieve. But I don't think it's accurate to say SRS is in general completely incompatible with what Samuel's requesting. On Nov 17, 2:17 am, Oisín <[email protected]> wrote: > 2009/11/17 Samuel Morrison <[email protected]>: > > >> > I don't care about the students saving their work. I just don't want > >> > them to > >> > touch it for the next class. THey can spend a half an hour doing their > >> > vocabulary. Afterthat they are finished. > ... > > I do not see a contradiction between using spaced repetition, which I want, > > and preventing access to decks. You fail to explain how those two concepts > > naturally exclude each other by their very nature. My failure to understand > > has nothing to do with being obviously not technically inclined at all, as > > you say. > > I don't understand why you don't understand this. To actually use the > spaced repetition features of Mnemosyne, or Anki, or Supermemo, or > Pauker, or ANY SRS system, you must have WRITE ACCESS to the deck. The > information about your individual progress with the cards is written > to the deck every time you GRADE a card - otherwise how can it decide > when to schedule the card for next review (i.e. "spaced" repetition). > > Simply using the deck to study requires access to the deck. There is > your contradiction. If the students can't write to the deck, then > Mnemosyne can't do the ONE thing it was meant to do. > > > > > Do me a favour--don't respond. I will uninstall this program and I will > > switch to Anki. Problem solved. > > Anki will NOT solve your problem, no matter how much you complain > about this 'simple' feature on the Anki mailing list. > > What you want is basically a simple webpage of read-only flashcards > which students can view at any time but not change. This is very easy > to do, unless you can't admit that's what you want and keep searching > in vain for a self-contradicting solution of using SRS on non-writable > data. SRS is for INDIVIDUAL study, which is why every student would > need their own copy of the deck (ok, maybe you could split the deck > into two files; the cards which are made read-only on some HTTP server > and the schedule information for each student which is writable, but > it doesn't matter because you don't have any system to provide that > individual writable space for each student's schedule information; > once again Mnemosyne/Anki/etc would be nothing more than a displayer > of cards). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "mnemosyne-proj-users" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mnemosyne-proj-users?hl=.
