The problem is... I don't know yet, what a perfect card will be and
would very much appreciate some input on what it could be... Good cards
catch important information in a way such that you will not end up with
1000 cards for a single 7 week course, yet still have all of the
important stuff for exams and later use. Answers should also be
clear-cut. That is easy with language learning as sentences and
vocabulary make nice cards, but I have yet to find a simple way to
structure computer science topics in "sentences", "vocabulary" and
"grammar points".
Mvh.
Randi
Den 21-03-2011 14:16, George Wade skrev:
If you don't mind me asking, Randi, what would your perfect cards
contain ?
I ask because mine would contain video clips, with the words to be
remembered hidden in the Q and shown in the A. It could be a song,
too. I use a nice font for my kanji, so that makes them graphic, they
are pictures. I am unable to learn programming, so far: but might try
making pictures of the txt one day. Perhaps Mnemosyne 2 will take
video files?
Would it help your CS studies to get materials from a much more
challenging project? You could then tell yourself that Leo da Vinci
actually studied very hard: but not baby stuff for school. Doing
enough real projects would cover most of what is done at school if you
are lucky in choices.
G
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 2:55 AM, Randi H. <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I have a theory of why so few people use it in their daily
routines... Personally I would really like to use it for my
official studies of computer science, but as of yet it has not
really been a succes for me. At present I use SRS only for my self
study of Japanese, which is less than part time due to my full
time study and my work taking most of the time.
Personally I'm damned lazy but also very easy-learning which leads
to me not studying very much and still getting the next to highest
grade in almost every exam... I know I could do the top grade if I
took the time, and I try every once in a while but always end up
doing everything except studying and then quick-study the day
before exam (as today) and getting the next to highest grade...
It's hard to do your best when your worst gives almost the same
results.
So as to my theory it concerns learning to do nice flash cards. No
one ever teached me, and yet I haven't had enough practice to feel
very good at it either. I have a hard time making the flash cards
in the first place, which results in me ending up not making them.
Doing the reps every day is very easy, if you have nice flash card
which make you feel they help you remember the important stuff.
But how to pick out the important stuff?! I don't really know.
So start teaching people how to smoothly and easily choose what to
put in a flash card and the good and bad forms of flash card
instead of just presenting them with a technology capable of
making learning efficient - I feel lost in how to make the
creation of flash card a smooth part of my daily routines.
Mvh.
Randi
Den 19-03-2011 22:09, Caio Rossi skrev:
Hello,
I'm Brazilian and teach English as a foreign language down here
in Brazil. The students I have introduced SRS to like it, but
only one or another has adopted it in their daily routines, and
those were the more studious ones.
Regardless of that, I use Mnemosyne wilth all of them in class at
the beginning of each class in order to review vocabulary and
structures, especially but not exclusively those they ask for
while they are doing a conversation activity, as those are the
ones they generally don't care to memorize.
All my students recognize how important and useful that
technology is, as it guarantees frequent review and better
retention. And better than that: they just love it! Two of them
even call it "The Game"...
But there are "philosophical" reasons why that technology is not
more widely used, as it goes against the dearest mainstream
theories of learning and education. I believe SRS would face the
same reaction Direct Instruction has, and DI, by the way, seems
to be the educational theory that adapts the best to SRS - or the
other way round, in fact. Check out:
http://psych.athabascau.ca/html/387/OpenModules/Engelmann/
And especially this link:
http://psych.athabascau.ca/html/387/OpenModules/Engelmann/evidence.shtml
Hugs,
Caio
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Gwern Branwen <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 4:41 AM, Peter Bienstman
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
> I wasn't able to easily find the metrics you are referring
too, but I
> personally find 100 000 a big number :-)
I linked directly to the section, so it should've been hard
to miss
the table. I recently added some aggressive caching headers,
so maybe
a force-refresh would help.
> I'm all for introducing more people to the SRS philosophy,
but I would be
> hesitant to *enforce* it in e.g. language schools.
'code is law'. If you read my previous link, you'd see that
SRS can be
integrated into tests/quizzes and teaching. This is not *as
good* as a
user-specific deck with customized spacings, but it is a great
improvement over current techniques. (And as I pointed out,
this flaw
could be fixed by any computer-based learning. The class
could proceed
on a crude average SRS schedule of review & learning new
material, and
individual students get touched up by individually-generated
tests.)
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