On a related note are we able to allow design-l to accept posts if we're
including it in discussions like this? The rejection emails are sad :(

Do we have any data (probably not from us, but from elsewhere) on how used
the find on page features are? Personally I find that I don't use it much
at all because it requires a fair bit of time (clicking in/typing out my
search/sorting through results) compared to just flipping through the
website/page and looking on my own.

James Alexander
Legal and Community Advocacy
Wikimedia Foundation
(415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:49 PM, James Alexander
<[email protected]>wrote:

> [that said a 'collapse all' certainly helps my concerns, since I can just
> click that]
>
> James Alexander
> Legal and Community Advocacy
> Wikimedia Foundation
> (415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:48 PM, James Alexander <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Steven Walling 
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I'm not sure I agree with Steven's assessment that this will make
>>>> navigating between sections difficult - behaviour gets reverted - you close
>>>> the section to see the next section. This is akin to flicking through a
>>>> book and flicking to the next page (closing the section) if the heading at
>>>> the top of the page doesn't interest you. It just means you don't see all
>>>> the headings in one go which could be a good or bad thing.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> Right... but if you don't actually see the other sections you have to
>> start closing them all to find out what is actually available. I know, at
>> least in my case, that will likely mean I just navigate away (or switch to
>> desktop view). In general I've found that what you 'see' at the start is
>> very important. Honestly I'm surprised it's even a question.. I can see
>> arguments for it being uncollapsed by default (find on page etc, even if I
>> don't agree with them) but there is little doubt in my mind that it hurts
>> the easy navigation. This is especially true without a table of contents
>> (which the compressed sections basically acted as), in a book you don't
>> just flick to the next page, you look at the TOC and know where to go.
>>
>>
>
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