I hate to dissent, but I don't think a separate app is the way to go at this time for a few reasons.
First, many of the types of contributions to wikidata that we've talked about game-ifying are article specific. ie, "have user read some portion of an article and summarize what it's about in 5 words or less", etc. This would mean we'd need search and browse etc, and my gut tells me a variety of other context and interactions the existing app provides would need to be recreated. If the existing app could launch the game app, that could be one way to provide context, but from a UX perspective, we would otherwise be limiting ourselves to tasks that didn't require heavy back-and-forth comparisons and the transition between apps, at least on iOS, is super annoying (the way Facebook swaps out to Messenger annoys the hell out of me). I also think, at this time, our limited resources are better spent carefully crafting one or two gamed interactions which we can carefully insert into the existing app rather than having to solve the inevitable wider set of challenges a new app would present. The existing app also has a flood of users based on name recognition alone. Although I suppose we could call it "Wikipedia Games"... tl:dr, game-ify yes, other app no/not now > On Aug 9, 2014, at 17:37, [email protected] wrote: > > Send Mobile-l mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Mobile-l digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Creating a shell app to house Wikidata games (Tomasz Finc) > 2. Re: Creating a shell app to house Wikidata games > (May Tee-Galloway) > 3. Re: Creating a shell app to house Wikidata games (Dmitry Brant) > 4. Re: Creating a shell app to house Wikidata games (Moiz Syed) > 5. Re: Creating a shell app to house Wikidata games (Yuvi Panda) > 6. Re: Creating a shell app to house Wikidata games (Bernd Sitzmann) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 13:35:41 +0100 > From: Tomasz Finc <[email protected]> > To: mobile-l <[email protected]> > Subject: [WikimediaMobile] Creating a shell app to house Wikidata > games > Message-ID: > <camxhqbdo_arwufx-ltsruxadasjmeovcrc3mezdq7dsqix1...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > It's been amazing to see the interest in WikiData games here at > Wikimania and i've been approached by a number of people who've wanted > to create them. From label creation to data validation there have been > many ideas of how to engage users in new and creative ways. > > I'm curious to hear from users on this list and beyond about interest > in a WikiData games app that would facilitate simple and quick > contributions. > > The idea would be that the app would act as a simple frontend shell > that would allow anyone to interact with WikiData games to create, > curate, and validate content. Putting aside the difficulties of > dynamic custom user content with the app I'm curious about the > interest in this. > > I know that that mobile web team is already planning a handful of > experiments with this and I'm eager to see if some of you would > frequent an app that collected these and empowered users to contribute > in ways that doesn't exist yet. > > Do let know > > --tomasz > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 15:11:04 +0100 > From: May Tee-Galloway <[email protected]> > To: Tomasz Finc <[email protected]> > Cc: mobile-l <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WikimediaMobile] Creating a shell app to house Wikidata > games > Message-ID: > <CAN4BDz4AE=+XCM=6+oy6_1h5sdlbjuzg7d5u72hjn11cxy1...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > You got a designer here! > > >> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Tomasz Finc <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> It's been amazing to see the interest in WikiData games here at >> Wikimania and i've been approached by a number of people who've wanted >> to create them. From label creation to data validation there have been >> many ideas of how to engage users in new and creative ways. >> >> I'm curious to hear from users on this list and beyond about interest >> in a WikiData games app that would facilitate simple and quick >> contributions. >> >> The idea would be that the app would act as a simple frontend shell >> that would allow anyone to interact with WikiData games to create, >> curate, and validate content. Putting aside the difficulties of >> dynamic custom user content with the app I'm curious about the >> interest in this. >> >> I know that that mobile web team is already planning a handful of >> experiments with this and I'm eager to see if some of you would >> frequent an app that collected these and empowered users to contribute >> in ways that doesn't exist yet. >> >> Do let know >> >> --tomasz >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mobile-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mobile-l/attachments/20140809/02436635/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 11:00:38 -0400 > From: Dmitry Brant <[email protected]> > To: May Tee-Galloway <[email protected]> > Cc: mobile-l <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WikimediaMobile] Creating a shell app to house Wikidata > games > Message-ID: > <CAJbAN6bP+zCx2gvBDcgSLXg8PJQ1Kp=wzcyb4bph2rv4nj1...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > ...and my ax! > > > > On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 10:11 AM, May Tee-Galloway <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> You got a designer here! >> >> >>> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Tomasz Finc <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> It's been amazing to see the interest in WikiData games here at >>> Wikimania and i've been approached by a number of people who've wanted >>> to create them. From label creation to data validation there have been >>> many ideas of how to engage users in new and creative ways. >>> >>> I'm curious to hear from users on this list and beyond about interest >>> in a WikiData games app that would facilitate simple and quick >>> contributions. >>> >>> The idea would be that the app would act as a simple frontend shell >>> that would allow anyone to interact with WikiData games to create, >>> curate, and validate content. Putting aside the difficulties of >>> dynamic custom user content with the app I'm curious about the >>> interest in this. >>> >>> I know that that mobile web team is already planning a handful of >>> experiments with this and I'm eager to see if some of you would >>> frequent an app that collected these and empowered users to contribute >>> in ways that doesn't exist yet. >>> >>> Do let know >>> >>> --tomasz >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mobile-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mobile-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mobile-l/attachments/20140809/d4c48a8b/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:02:38 +0100 > From: Moiz Syed <[email protected]> > To: Dmitry Brant <[email protected]> > Cc: mobile-l <[email protected]>, May Tee-Galloway > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WikimediaMobile] Creating a shell app to house Wikidata > games > Message-ID: > <CAGrnGRw9T274iR8WE=+gxm3gnfeuv9bqv93qrj38hlnwewz...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Seeing all this excitement around wiki tinder is really nice to see :) I > think we're on to something! > >> On Saturday, August 9, 2014, Dmitry Brant <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> ...and my ax! >> >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 10:11 AM, May Tee-Galloway <[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >> >>> You got a designer here! >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Tomasz Finc <[email protected] >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >>> >>>> It's been amazing to see the interest in WikiData games here at >>>> Wikimania and i've been approached by a number of people who've wanted >>>> to create them. From label creation to data validation there have been >>>> many ideas of how to engage users in new and creative ways. >>>> >>>> I'm curious to hear from users on this list and beyond about interest >>>> in a WikiData games app that would facilitate simple and quick >>>> contributions. >>>> >>>> The idea would be that the app would act as a simple frontend shell >>>> that would allow anyone to interact with WikiData games to create, >>>> curate, and validate content. Putting aside the difficulties of >>>> dynamic custom user content with the app I'm curious about the >>>> interest in this. >>>> >>>> I know that that mobile web team is already planning a handful of >>>> experiments with this and I'm eager to see if some of you would >>>> frequent an app that collected these and empowered users to contribute >>>> in ways that doesn't exist yet. >>>> >>>> Do let know >>>> >>>> --tomasz >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mobile-l mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mobile-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mobile-l/attachments/20140809/279bd6d7/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:04:02 +0100 > From: Yuvi Panda <[email protected]> > To: Moiz Syed <[email protected]> > Cc: mobile-l <[email protected]>, May Tee-Galloway > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WikimediaMobile] Creating a shell app to house Wikidata > games > Message-ID: > <CAFw=ySidSJ-jG6paLjZb=21fzz2lqsm7gnma+bmxucbwqtf...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I think it is super awesome. Sign me up for serverside help. > > And we don't let Moiz name anything ever, EVER. > >> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Moiz Syed <[email protected]> wrote: >> Seeing all this excitement around wiki tinder is really nice to see :) I >> think we're on to something! >> >>> On Saturday, August 9, 2014, Dmitry Brant <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> ...and my ax! >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 10:11 AM, May Tee-Galloway >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> You got a designer here! >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Tomasz Finc <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It's been amazing to see the interest in WikiData games here at >>>>> Wikimania and i've been approached by a number of people who've wanted >>>>> to create them. From label creation to data validation there have been >>>>> many ideas of how to engage users in new and creative ways. >>>>> >>>>> I'm curious to hear from users on this list and beyond about interest >>>>> in a WikiData games app that would facilitate simple and quick >>>>> contributions. >>>>> >>>>> The idea would be that the app would act as a simple frontend shell >>>>> that would allow anyone to interact with WikiData games to create, >>>>> curate, and validate content. Putting aside the difficulties of >>>>> dynamic custom user content with the app I'm curious about the >>>>> interest in this. >>>>> >>>>> I know that that mobile web team is already planning a handful of >>>>> experiments with this and I'm eager to see if some of you would >>>>> frequent an app that collected these and empowered users to contribute >>>>> in ways that doesn't exist yet. >>>>> >>>>> Do let know >>>>> >>>>> --tomasz >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Mobile-l mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mobile-l mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mobile-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l > > > > -- > Yuvi Panda T > http://yuvi.in/blog > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 10:37:22 -0600 > From: Bernd Sitzmann <[email protected]> > To: Yuvi Panda <[email protected]> > Cc: mobile-l <[email protected]>, May Tee-Galloway > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WikimediaMobile] Creating a shell app to house Wikidata > games > Message-ID: > <camjui5hyv5ydhrxw4wdfuuk5oo6ggpwcgb7thvzqa_+pk5c...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Count me in! > > >> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Yuvi Panda <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I think it is super awesome. Sign me up for serverside help. >> >> And we don't let Moiz name anything ever, EVER. >> >>> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Moiz Syed <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Seeing all this excitement around wiki tinder is really nice to see :) I >>> think we're on to something! >>> >>>> On Saturday, August 9, 2014, Dmitry Brant <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> ...and my ax! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 10:11 AM, May Tee-Galloway >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> You got a designer here! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Tomasz Finc <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> It's been amazing to see the interest in WikiData games here at >>>>>> Wikimania and i've been approached by a number of people who've wanted >>>>>> to create them. From label creation to data validation there have been >>>>>> many ideas of how to engage users in new and creative ways. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm curious to hear from users on this list and beyond about interest >>>>>> in a WikiData games app that would facilitate simple and quick >>>>>> contributions. >>>>>> >>>>>> The idea would be that the app would act as a simple frontend shell >>>>>> that would allow anyone to interact with WikiData games to create, >>>>>> curate, and validate content. Putting aside the difficulties of >>>>>> dynamic custom user content with the app I'm curious about the >>>>>> interest in this. >>>>>> >>>>>> I know that that mobile web team is already planning a handful of >>>>>> experiments with this and I'm eager to see if some of you would >>>>>> frequent an app that collected these and empowered users to contribute >>>>>> in ways that doesn't exist yet. >>>>>> >>>>>> Do let know >>>>>> >>>>>> --tomasz >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Mobile-l mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Mobile-l mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mobile-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >> >> >> >> -- >> Yuvi Panda T >> http://yuvi.in/blog >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mobile-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mobile-l/attachments/20140809/56927dac/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Mobile-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l > > > End of Mobile-l Digest, Vol 53, Issue 16 > **************************************** _______________________________________________ Mobile-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l
